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Post subject: Re: Used Aircraft Market (Turbine) August 2019 Posted: 12 Sep 2019, 19:07 |
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Joined: 12/24/07 Posts: 1244 Post Likes: +153 Location: Akron, Ohio
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Username Protected wrote: Citation SII Time 5:21 - Fuel 5,020 lbs - Block 138 gph - Passenger Load 800 lbs ~800 lbs reserve. That's a bit tight for a NYC airport given routing and other factors. I don't think I would actually expect this to work in real life. A decent amount of tailwinds on this route, too. This is not a sure leg on any given day, and going back will require a stop on most days. Quote: The Legacy aircraft aren't for everybody by these were and still are great planes. Yes, they are. Mike C.
Your right buddy on the reserves but you could pull it back about 1-2% and get you to 900lbs. My purpose was to show the range of the S2 vs the newer planes. The 3+ and 4 actually are short on reserves as well.
Last week I was training with a guy that operates two Super S2s out of Houston if you interested in picking his brain.
Gary
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Post subject: Re: Used Aircraft Market (Turbine) August 2019 Posted: 12 Sep 2019, 21:19 |
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I would be interested to know if he could reliably operate those aircraft coast to coast non-stop, that would make them the cheapest transcontinental jet.
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Your right buddy on the reserves but you could pull it back about 1-2% and get you to 900lbs. My purpose was to show the range of the S2 vs the newer planes. The 3+ and 4 actually are short on reserves as well.
Last week I was training with a guy that operates two Super S2s out of Houston if you interested in picking his brain.
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Post subject: Re: Used Aircraft Market (Turbine) August 2019 Posted: 13 Sep 2019, 14:48 |
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Joined: 05/23/13 Posts: 7990 Post Likes: +10315 Company: Jet Acquisitions Location: Franklin, TN 615-739-9091 chip@jetacq.com
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Username Protected wrote:
If we run into you down here, have a few funny stories that I can share but cannot post...too many guns and mine shafts around here to upset people on the inner webs.
KJ I found one of those mine shafts, quite by accident, turns out they go straight down... guess I thought it was like the movies with a rail and a cart. Wished I had the gear to explore... probably pretty interesting at the bottom.
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Post subject: Re: Used Aircraft Market (Turbine) August 2019 Posted: 13 Sep 2019, 14:53 |
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Username Protected wrote:
If we run into you down here, have a few funny stories that I can share but cannot post...too many guns and mine shafts around here to upset people on the inner webs.
KJ I found one of those mine shafts, quite by accident, turns out they go straight down... guess I thought it was like the movies with a rail and a cart. Wished I had the gear to explore... probably pretty interesting at the bottom. Didnt your children ever teach you to stay away from those?
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Post subject: Re: Used Aircraft Market (Turbine) August 2019 Posted: 13 Sep 2019, 16:45 |
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Joined: 05/23/13 Posts: 7990 Post Likes: +10315 Company: Jet Acquisitions Location: Franklin, TN 615-739-9091 chip@jetacq.com
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Username Protected wrote: Didnt your children ever teach you to stay away from those? THAT RIGHT THERE IS FUNNY!!!!!! 
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Post subject: Re: Used Aircraft Market (Turbine) August 2019 Posted: 16 Sep 2019, 10:50 |
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Username Protected wrote:
If we run into you down here, have a few funny stories that I can share but cannot post...too many guns and mine shafts around here to upset people on the inner webs.
KJ I found one of those mine shafts, quite by accident, turns out they go straight down... guess I thought it was like the movies with a rail and a cart. Wished I had the gear to explore... probably pretty interesting at the bottom.
The big mine shafts are shocking. I was walking a property near me that was for sale a few years ago and found a 50ft wide hole, partially covered with some steel. It was so deep that my streamlight flashlight could not light up the bottom.
Then it hit me that I was standing on the edge of a 50ft by maybe 400ft deep hole in the desert on a 1,000 acre property, no cell coverage and only one other person within 15 miles. Thought maybe it was time to head back.
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Post subject: Re: Used Aircraft Market (Turbine) August 2019 Posted: 16 Sep 2019, 12:06 |
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Joined: 05/23/13 Posts: 7990 Post Likes: +10315 Company: Jet Acquisitions Location: Franklin, TN 615-739-9091 chip@jetacq.com
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The one I found was probably 6 or 8 foot across, straight down, with just an old timber across it. It was broad daylight and I could have easily slid down the steep side to the opening, made me wonder about those who move through there at night. We had a 100' rope that we secured to a flashlight and lowered down, we didn't reach the bottom nor could we see it.
This was south of Sierra Blanca on the Equipment Pass Ranch... or at least that is what I remember the name to be.
On that trip we drove down as far south as we could, came to a place on the border that looked like an Oasis... manicured lawns (big deal there), well kept buildings and structures... searching the web, which we didn't have back then, reveals the site... I gather it is some type of hot springs. Back in the 80's we were concerned that we had found some drug lord's estate... so we hightailed it out of there!
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Post subject: Re: Used Aircraft Market (Turbine) August 2019 Posted: 11 Oct 2019, 23:55 |
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Joined: 05/23/13 Posts: 7990 Post Likes: +10315 Company: Jet Acquisitions Location: Franklin, TN 615-739-9091 chip@jetacq.com
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I posted this on another thread, but figured it belonged here as well.
Seems to be time for an update. Nothing is slowing down, it is as busy as ever. We just closed a gorgeous C90A yesterday and Kim at Powell was relieved we waited until Thursday because she was slammed and couldn't get it done Wednesday... this has rarely happened, even at the end of the year.
Our challenge right now is finding nice airplanes... it is taking 3 -6 months instead of 30 - 60 days. We use to find the best four or five airplanes and then pick the best deal... now we watch every airplane that might meet our criteria and pounce on the nice one like a rabid spider monkey if the owner even thinks about selling it. Ok, it's more subtle than that, but you get the point.
I'm not sure what the numbers will be at year end, there's a lot of frustrated shoppers out there, so the actual airplanes getting sold may in fact be down. However, it is not lack of demand, it is lack of nice airplanes that are priced right.
I'm actually concerned that we may reach the point where there are simply no exceptional airplanes for sale.
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