BeechTalk - BT - Travel Air—>Baron—>MU2—>Citation

Username Protected · **Posted:** 09 Jun 2019, 14:47

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So Mike - how does the longbody MU-2 do in that regard? I know you give up a little speed (and gain some nice room if you need it) - but I have heard they handle more nicely in the TO / LDG process?

The long body has much better runway manners. The landing gear is more properly placed so you can actually rotate on takeoff and land without nosing over on landing.

My plane has the batteries relocated to the wheel wells, so it have a pretty far aft CG. This improves the runway handling and increases speed. It does make the plane harder to hand fly (pitch sensitive, particularly at higher speeds).

Speed loss is 10-15 knots, much bigger cabin. For some, that is the right tradeoff. Very much an airliner feel, even has an entrance "foyer".

Mike C.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 10 Jun 2019, 00:06

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SFAR finished up yesterday. I am DEFINITELY going to SimCom to practice emergencies. I also am now a religious checklist user which I have never been before. There are too many buttons and levers to forget on a turboprop vs a jet. This experience has made me a better, more well rounded pilot. I picked up a buddy's 501SP after dropping off Jame's plane so I have a 501 sitting in my hangar to "dry lease" in exchange for hangar rent. Perhaps the Mits and Citation mated last night?

How handy are those flip up tabs on the glare shield??? Genius. I miss those already.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 11 Jun 2019, 20:01

How to tow a Mits to the pumps

Username Protected · **Posted:** 11 Jun 2019, 23:39

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How to tow a Mits to the pumps

BTDT

Username Protected · **Posted:** 13 Jun 2019, 19:19

Rebecca and Charles like the MU-2

Username Protected · **Posted:** 13 Jun 2019, 19:27

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I am sure when I die, I will awake sitting on runway 7 at KORL ready for takeoff. That must be what the afterlife looks like.

Mike C.

Yep. I start sweating every time I go into ORL. You know something is going to happen If the engine doesn't stop on the way in, it is going to stop on the way out :eek:

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Username Protected · **Posted:** 14 Jun 2019, 01:07

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How to tow a Mits to the pumps

You will want to be gentle with the folding tow bar. While rugged, it could cripple under heavy braking loads. The MU2 is ~9,000 lbs full fuel.

Also, MU2 nose gears should be treated with some care, a number of them have folded on landing. Universally, these are from issues a good mechanic should have caught but didn't. Just be gentle with them, start and stop slowly, and go over bumps gently.

Consider getting a front hitch, makes it much easier to maneuver and see the airplane as you move it.

Mike C.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 14 Jun 2019, 07:36

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How to tow a Mits to the pumps

You will want to be gentle with the folding tow bar. While rugged, it could cripple under heavy braking loads. The MU2 is ~9,000 lbs full fuel.

Also, MU2 nose gears should be treated with some care, a number of them have folded on landing. Universally, these are from issues a good mechanic should have caught but didn't. Just be gentle with them, start and stop slowly, and go over bumps gently.

Consider getting a front hitch, makes it much easier to maneuver and see the airplane as you move it.

Mike C.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 14 Jun 2019, 11:21

MT looks like you are doing some upset training with the fam!

Username Protected · **Posted:** 14 Jun 2019, 11:58

Cabin size and config on mu2 is really good for family.

My wife gets the couch, bolt kids into rear facing car seats and a massive stand up cabin for the kids as well.

If only the kids appreciated how much better it is than southwest. They always ask when they are going to get to go to the ‘big airport’ and fly on the ‘big planes’.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 14 Jun 2019, 12:07

How many hours in type Mike?

Username Protected · **Posted:** 14 Jun 2019, 14:30

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Cabin size and config on mu2 is really good for family.

My wife gets the couch, bolt kids into rear facing car seats and a massive stand up cabin for the kids as well.

If only the kids appreciated how much better it is than southwest. They always ask when they are going to get to go to the ‘big airport’ and fly on the ‘big planes’.

I heard the same thing from my kids when they were little! But both have gone through having to sleep on the floor at the Denver airport and they got cured pretty quickly.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 14 Jun 2019, 15:39

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How many hours in type Mike?

About 20 hrs in it now. I feel comfortable in it. You should look at these. It has enough gas for a lot of out and back missions that wouldn’t work with a jet. Excellent short field airplane. Lots of buttons and switches, it’s fun to fly.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 14 Jun 2019, 17:03

Michael,
why are you back in a TP? I tough the old Citations were cheaper to run than a Baron?

Username Protected wrote:

How many hours in type Mike?

About 20 hrs in it now. I feel comfortable in it. You should look at these. It has enough gas for a lot of out and back missions that wouldn’t work with a jet. Excellent short field airplane. Lots of buttons and switches, it’s fun to fly.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 14 Jun 2019, 19:30

[quote="Marc Bourdon"]Michael,
why are you back in a TP? I tough the old Citations were cheaper to run than a Baron?

Grass field 440nm to 2800ft mountain strip to grass field without getting gas is current mission and a 501 cannot do that. Decision had zero to do with money. I don’t think your TBM could do that mission either Marc.