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 Post subject: Re: Flying the Skywagon
PostPosted: 21 May 2019, 07:32 
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I own both a 180 and a 195. Chris' evaluation is spot on.

I have a friend that operates his 195 off of a 1600' grass strip with no issues.

1000' would be no issue for the 180 except in the most extreme circumstances.

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 Post subject: Re: Flying the Skywagon
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So my point is aptly made; this would be a difficult decision. Akin to making a choice between two children.


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So my point is aptly made; this would be a difficult decision. Akin to making a choice between two children.


Sophie's choice...aviation style

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Oh I don’t think there’s a lot of comparison between a 180 and a 195 is there? I mean other than the manufacturer and the tailwheel?
I see the 195 as a big comfy cruiser that is meant to really travel. Backseat like a Cadillac.
The 180 seems geared more towards utility and adventure. Backseat like a Volkswagen.
Tell me how wrong I am.

Disclaimer: I haven’t flown either but have strongly considered/shopped for both.


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 Post subject: Re: Flying the Skywagon
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Oh I don’t think there’s a lot of comparison between a 180 and a 195 is there? I mean other than the manufacturer and the tailwheel?
I see the 195 as a big comfy cruiser that is meant to really travel. Backseat like a Cadillac.
The 180 seems geared more towards utility and adventure. Backseat like a Volkswagen.
Tell me how wrong I am.

Disclaimer: I haven’t flown either but have strongly considered/shopped for both.


I have both. No argument from me.

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 Post subject: Re: Flying the Skywagon
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Departing KMDW in marginal VFR with rain.

[youtube]https://youtu.be/1-TJfpKraA8[/youtube]

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Departing KMDW in marginal VFR with rain.

[youtube]https://youtu.be/1-TJfpKraA8[/youtube]


I am sorry...you can’t tell me there wasn’t anyone at Midway (especially those SW types) watching and saying... “I wish that was me...”

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Well done! Only thing colder would have been leaving with the amphibs on.


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Departing KMDW in marginal VFR with rain.

I am sorry...you can’t tell me there wasn’t anyone at Midway (especially those SW types) watching and saying... “I wish that was me...”

:D

Well done! Only thing colder would have been leaving with the amphibs on.


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The bottom line is John Green is the winner. I think when I grow up, I might wanna be just like him.


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The bottom line is John Green is the winner. I think when I grow up, I might wanna be just like him.


Grow up? No way. If there is a secret to growing old, I'm there, you have to keep a little kid in you that giggles sometime when he's having fun.

I think, for me, that I have found the perfect "retirement" airplane scenario. 180/195/Cub.

They're fun, simple, great for 400 mile hops and Delta is only a phone call away. :thumbup:

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No video unfortunately but I just flew from KSAW-KIMT hard IMC culminating with a GPS to CTL minimums. 600 agl and 1.5 miles. The GPS was 19. Winds 130 15g25. I circled to 13. Nothing but net.

Say what you want about not needing a panel in a 185 but I love mine because of missions like this one.

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I would love a C185 for all the reasons us reading this thread do. I had a Maule for years (MX7-235), and now I fly a TBM 700 (A model) and really miss the taildragger.
The farmstrips, here in South Dakota, we fly out of are 1,100 ft long and the other is about 980 ft long. They are on top of bluffs with drop offs on either end. The Maule had no problem with the strips and our Zenith LSA does it with ease.
The C185 is a great grass strip ( off airport etc) plane, but how does it do for short field takeoff and landings?
I realize that’s a loaded question. It’s really all about pilot skill and technique. But do you feel it’s a plane that after much practice it should work, or is their just not enough margin for error with the steep drop offs on either end?
Thanks for the post. Love the Skywagon.

Greg


Greg:

The C185 is soooo much fun, but as others have said, it will keep you honest and humble. It loves off pavement airports and so do I as they are more forgiving of minor errors. Getting in is no problem. I've landed to a full stop in less than 650 ft total dirt runway. Getting out is the challenge. Grass will add 15-30 % to your T/O ground roll depending on how full and long the grass is. I spent 4 days in the Idaho back country with McCall Mountain Canyon Flying (highly recommend). 30+ airstrips, beautiful terrain. The C185 was right at home and I couldn't get enough. I'm headed back this June for more. Below is my baby taking from one of my rice fields in California.


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Actually weight is everything with any aircraft performance.

I used to run a skydiving club with 3 185s. I have 200 hours in the 185, landing every 20 minutes. 5 jumpers sitting on the floor.

The 185 is the only aircraft I ever tried to land & aborted because the cross wind was too strong - went elsewhere.

I did like flying the 185.

We hired lots of pilots. Pilots with Piper Cub (or similar) tail wheel time struggled.

Pilots with Citabria tail wheel time -- did well in the 185.

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Mike, what is it about Citabrias and their pilots that made them better off in the 185?


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