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 Post subject: WTB: D95 or E95 Travel Air
PostPosted: 28 Mar 2019, 14:56 
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My wife and I are looking for a D95 or E95 Travel Air to purchase. We know how dear these airplanes are to their owners, and we have come across a few that have been sitting for some time, and are in need of someone who wants to fly them regularly. Let us know if you know of an airplane for sale. Thanks!


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 Post subject: Re: WTB: Travel Air
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There are 80 D95's on the FAA registry and 6 E95's.

Have you considered cold calling them?


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Last time I checked 2 months ago, they’re were 81 D95a’s on the Registry. Did we loose one?


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 Post subject: Re: WTB: Travel Air
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Probably.

Most likely a carcass whose registry finally lapsed.


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Calling is not a bad idea - let me see if I get any responses from my WTB and I'll go from there.


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 Post subject: Re: WTB: D95 or E95 Travel Air
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The (6) E95's in the registry are all still active to my knowledge.

Of the (80) D95A's listed in the registry, at least (6) are inactive, damaged or destroyed. Another (3) are Doyn's. One or two more are in Hawaii... including N8537M, the one in the early D95A POH.

D95A Doyn's

N816G, N8801M, N1NX

D95A's Inactive But Still On Registry

N8613M, N95DT, N666WA, N397T, N76S, N8950U


If you're looking for a standard D95A that is currently flying, there are actually (70) or less. Hope that helps narrow the search.
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D95A Doyn's

N816G, N8801M, N1NX


I tried to buy N1NX a couple of years ago. The broker conveyed that the seller said my offer was fair but did not accept it :scratch: Based on the times reported in the current ad it hasn't flown even an hour in at least the last two years. Sad. I think this is one that the owner can't let go of but will probably never fly it again; we all know of pilots like that.

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 Post subject: Re: WTB: D95 or E95 Travel Air
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From my dip in the travelair/twinkie pool a few years ago, “hasn’t flown in years” is the rule.


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D95A Doyn's

N816G, N8801M, N1NX


I tried to buy N1NX a couple of years ago. The broker conveyed that the seller said my offer was fair but did not accept it :scratch: Based on the times reported in the current ad it hasn't flown even an hour in at least the last two years. Sad. I think this is one that the owner can't let go of but will probably never fly it again; we all know of pilots like that.


I too would have made an offer on this one, but with a starting price the size of Texas... you KNOW they are either so far removed from reality, or don't really want to sell it. It's not worth the bother to them unless they make a killing. This is a good plane if they wise up and let it go before it rots. I just don't understand the mindset of some of these owners. You all know the ones that are decent ships that have been languishing in the rags for months or years now. Economics 101. The elasticity of demand. If the price was correct for the asset, these would all sell tomorrow. Older piston multi-engine aircraft stopped being an appreciating asset years and years ago. They are an enjoyable liability, with all the attendant costs and issues. The sooner these owner/sellers realize this, the better the chance of rescuing some of them before they are no good to anyone -- except maybe some parts. Even folks not really wanting a Baron, are almost pushed into one because there is more capability at the same purchase price point now. It is a little more expensive to own and fly a Baron, but unfortunately, their support network is far superior to that of the Travel Air's. :shrug: ~ ME

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 Post subject: Re: WTB: D95 or E95 Travel Air
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I did the cold call move a little over a year ago. Probably called 30, talked to 15-20. A few were willing to sell, but the airplanes were in bad shape, hadn't been flown, and were collecting dust, or in the middle of some refurb project. Got pictures from several of them and I was not interested in the probable maintenance/corrosion nightmare.

Talked to a few owners of nice and well cared for TA's on the phone for a good while too. They talked about trips they took and some pointers on what to look for and what to avoid. Sent me some pics as well, and there are some nice TA's out there. No one with a well maintained, up to date, flying regularly TA was interested in selling.

After waiting it out for one to come on the market, scouring BT, Controller, Trade a Plane, and ASO everyday, a nice well equipped E95 finally showed up about 8 months into my search. I bought it and have flown it over 50 hours in 4 months, and don't see that slowing down. Great plane and a blast to fly. Already had ADS-B, GPSS, 60-2, EDM760, Gami's (not sure why Gami's on a I0-360, but what the hey) and Garmin WAAS GPS. Well maintained TA's are hard to find, and when you go through the process of finding one and FINALLY find it, you understand why the owners of other nice TA's don't sell them. Keep looking, one will pop up eventually that is in good shape and it will be worth the wait.

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Flightaware might help narrow the cold call list


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The asking price of D95s really surprises me. More than equivalent Dukes.
We are not sure what we would take for ours. It is a nice economical traveling machine.


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Thanks, everyone. And, thanks, Rocky, for connecting me with your son today - and, great to see the avionics stack on the TA. Have a super weekend! My J35 flew straight and true all day today!


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N76S was involved in fatal 10-16. I believe training accident.

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beautiful airplane. i can’t stop looking at her!


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