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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 13 Mar 2019, 06:49 |
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Looks like an inspectors rubber glove?
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 13 Mar 2019, 06:58 |
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Joined: 08/24/13 Posts: 9682 Post Likes: +4513 Company: Aviation Tools / CCX Location: KSMQ New Jersey
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Username Protected wrote: Things you don’t want to find on a customs ramp.  I kid you not. Strangest FOD ever. And no I did not touch it. At TBM initial a few weeks ago, the instructor told us about a TBM that departed La Guardia and lost the engine at 3000'. They did the turnback and landed with no problems. Back on the ground the engine started and ran fine. Someone suggested looking in the tank they were on and there was a rubber glove next to the fuel pickup.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 13 Mar 2019, 08:12 |
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Username Protected wrote: Things you don’t want to find on a customs ramp.  I kid you not. Strangest FOD ever. And no I did not touch it. At TBM initial a few weeks ago, the instructor told us about a TBM that departed La Guardia and lost the engine at 3000'. They did the turnback and landed with no problems. Back on the ground the engine started and ran fine. Someone suggested looking in the tank they were on and there was a rubber glove next to the fuel pickup. Hope he had a nice talk with the Sheltair manager on duty.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 15 Mar 2019, 16:38 |
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Username Protected wrote: Knucklehead Maybe it has leaky hydraulics or nitro?
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 15 Mar 2019, 18:55 |
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Some of em can’t access the baggage door with the flaps up. I don’t remember which. But it’s hard to find a good copilot.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 15 Mar 2019, 19:53 |
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I see that’s a CJ3 but I heard something once about leaving flaps partially down on legacy citations to put less stress on some part of the system. IIRC.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 15 Mar 2019, 22:36 |
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Username Protected wrote: I see that’s a CJ3 but I heard something once about leaving flaps partially down on legacy citations to put less stress on some part of the system. IIRC. Approach flaps yes, full flaps no.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 16 Mar 2019, 01:14 |
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Those are ground flaps with the speed brakes extended. Knucklehead didn’t go through after landing checklist before shutting down engines.
Flaps have 3 detents - APPROACH, LAND, GROUND. Ground flaps only to be used after all 3 wheels on the ground.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 16 Mar 2019, 01:21 |
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Username Protected wrote: Those are ground flaps with the speed brakes extended. Knucklehead didn’t go through after landing checklist before shutting down engines.
Flaps have 3 detents - APPROACH, LAND, GROUND. Ground flaps only to be used after all 3 wheels on the ground. The worst part is they managed to get out of the aircraft and either 1) didn’t notice or 2) didn’t care. For you non jet guys the closest analogy I can come up with is it like your fly is unzipped and your junk is hanging out. And you 1) don’t notice or care or 2) are proud of it. If I were an FAA inspector I would pull up a chair and wait for the perp to return. “Show me every single piece of documentation you have...twice!”
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 16 Mar 2019, 01:28 |
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Joined: 01/31/09 Posts: 5193 Post Likes: +3032 Location: Northern NJ
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Nobody told them they just need to motor an engine until hydraulic pressure is there to retract them. Didn’t have to start an engine. Pilot may have seen it and didn’t want to start an engine.
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