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 Post subject: piper matrix
PostPosted: 08 Mar 2019, 15:25 
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Friend of mine looking to buy one, any caveats?


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 Post subject: Re: piper matrix
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Friend of mine looking to buy one, any caveats?

I would have to ask him "why a Matrix?" It's all the complexity and costs of a Malibu without the benefit of pressurization. If I were to be looking at a high performance twin turbo, high altitude capable airplane, it would be pressurized, mostly for the passengers sake.

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Friend of mine looking to buy one, any caveats?

I don't understand why the Matrix exists. It's all the effort of a pressurized airplane without the hugely compelling benefits of pressurization.

Pressurization is a game changer.

I would try real, real hard to buy a Malibu or Mirage instead. JMO.

Piper has basically stopped making the Matrix, none delivered since 2015.

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 Post subject: Re: piper matrix
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Nothing first hand to provide, but I want to follow this thread.

Joe Casey, one of the several instructors specializing in the PA46 wrote a blog post on why he doesn't like the Matrix as much as the other 46's.

https://flycasey.com/thinking-of-buying-a-matrix/


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Why matrix?

pilot 100tt, no ifr

Keep till 500/ifr/meridian

But yes, matrix the best choice for a narrow group. Malibu/mirage/A36/Cirrus better for many people


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my bad, malibu


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How tall is the pilot? I'm 6'1", all legs, and I've found in my (limited) time in the PA46- series, that they aren't very generous with legroom. I wanted the seat to go back at least 2 or 3 more notches, that didn't exist.


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It’s not made for pilots taller than 6’3 unless you get the seat modified (there is a kit) so that it’ll lean back more. But honestly... I’m 6’2 and fit snuggly


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