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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II  Posted: 03 Mar 2019, 00:07 |
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When I had my P-Baron, a $5,000 bill other than annual could stop one’s heart! In the King Air, it’s a huge relief it was that cheap 
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 03 Mar 2019, 08:49 |
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Username Protected wrote: When I had my P-Baron, a $5,000 bill other than annual could stop one’s heart! In the King Air, it’s a huge relief it was that cheap I've got my own mechanics and a pile of parts and I'll share my results when the bill comes in. BUT, if you dropped it off at the Citation Service Center, easily a $20K squawk list. These older Citations like to be flown and this airplane sat for about a year before I adopted it and I think this is the process needed to bring it back to life. I like the airplane so much that I think I'm probably going to paint it and do the interior (not in bad shape just not that great either). It's a keeper. If you have the 500 hours turbine for SP Waiver, the Citation II has to be the greatest value in aviation today.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 03 Mar 2019, 09:32 |
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Username Protected wrote: If you have the 500 hours turbine for SP Waiver, the Citation II has to be the greatest value in aviation today. Right up to the moment you fly a Citation V with a Garmin panel. That’s the sleek new model with long legs that rocks you back in your seat and gets you high in no time that will steal you away from your 550 sweetheart. Don’t get too attached. Just sayin.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 03 Mar 2019, 09:52 |
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Username Protected wrote: There ain’t ‘nuthin like a jet you have to rein in while it’s clawing for altitude!  Can be said about a lot of things in life including members of the opposite sex.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 03 Mar 2019, 10:08 |
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Username Protected wrote: ^^^^  Chuck..you know I speak from experience on planes and the opposite sex 
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 03 Mar 2019, 10:11 |
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Username Protected wrote: There ain’t ‘nuthin like a jet you have to rein in while it’s clawing for altitude! Hmmmm, so you actually have to worry about speed restrictions while climbing??? Wow! Never had to even think about that.....
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 03 Mar 2019, 10:15 |
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Username Protected wrote: There ain’t ‘nuthin like a jet you have to rein in while it’s clawing for altitude! Hmmmm, so you actually have to worry about speed restrictions while climbing??? Wow! Never had to even think about that.....
Not if you don’t mind flying at 20 degrees of pitch. Pitch can solve all things until you reach your assigned alt. Not fun for the passengers but as pilots it’s a blast. (See what I did there).
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 03 Mar 2019, 11:02 |
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They hate it when I float em... except the kids. Wheeeeeeee!
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 03 Mar 2019, 11:07 |
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Username Protected wrote: I love the II, it's a much better airplane than a I. Can you elaborate on this comment?
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 03 Mar 2019, 11:17 |
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Username Protected wrote: They hate it when I float em... except the kids. Wheeeeeeee! That’s funny. Our grandkids appear to be the only ones who like turbulence in Red Bo, Wheeeeeeee
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 03 Mar 2019, 13:13 |
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Would like help to get this straight...  II/Bravo are 550s V/Ultra/Encore are 560s 550 are all set of dimensions and 560s are another? Everyone was booted wings but the Encore? ???? OK, now what is the super short difference between 500 and 501. Besides old and older....
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 03 Mar 2019, 13:41 |
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Username Protected wrote: Would like help to get this straight... II/Bravo are 550s V/Ultra/Encore are 560s 550 are all set of dimensions and 560s are another? Everyone was booted wings but the Encore? ???? OK, now what is the super short difference between 500 and 501. Besides old and older.... 550’s = IIs, S/Ii (weeping wing and V wing), 551 (sp II), Bravo (training link lg, different engines and Avionics) 560 = V, Ultra (engines and avionics) Encore (engine, hot wing, trailing link), Encore Plus (Avionics ) Don’t know much about 500/501 They can all be flown using the 500 type rating. They can all be flown SP. 550 and above require a SP wavier. Except the 551
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