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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 20 Jan 2019, 18:23 |
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Username Protected wrote: I have a lead acid battery. Changed it last year after 3.5 years. I never start with a GPU, and fly 100+ legs per year. Not much load on the battery when it just winds up rubber bands eh Clint 
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 21 Jan 2019, 00:35 |
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Username Protected wrote: Not much load on the battery when it just winds up rubber bands eh Clint  True, but it’s still fun
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 21 Jan 2019, 09:06 |
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Username Protected wrote: I have a lead acid battery. Changed it last year after 3.5 years. I never start with a GPU, and fly 100+ legs per year. Not much load on the battery when it just winds up rubber bands eh Clint  Ouch!
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 21 Jan 2019, 10:39 |
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Joined: 12/03/14 Posts: 20036 Post Likes: +25098 Company: Ciholas, Inc Location: KEHR
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Username Protected wrote: I had the left pitot heater breaker pop going through the rain. I reset it and it worked fine the rest of the day. I wonder if I should replace the probe with one of my spares? Thermal breakers (like the common button style we have in airplanes) can creep over time and trip early. Reset it and see how long it takes to happen again. If it does, then suspect something in the circuit. If it doesn't, no worries. The rain probably cooled the pitot down and that causes an increase in current (colder wire is lower resistance). That might have been just enough to put it over the edge that one time. Mike C.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 21 Jan 2019, 18:03 |
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Username Protected wrote: The rain probably cooled the pitot down and that causes an increase in current (colder wire is lower resistance). That might have been just enough to put it over the edge that one time. I wonder how much difference the rain makes on the pitot temperature when flying a 150+ KIAS? IIRC it doesn't seem to affect my CHTs noticeably.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 21 Jan 2019, 18:22 |
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Username Protected wrote: I had the left pitot heater breaker pop going through the rain. I reset it and it worked fine the rest of the day. I wonder if I should replace the probe with one of my spares? Thermal breakers (like the common button style we have in airplanes) can creep over time and trip early. Reset it and see how long it takes to happen again. If it does, then suspect something in the circuit. If it doesn't, no worries. The rain probably cooled the pitot down and that causes an increase in current (colder wire is lower resistance). That might have been just enough to put it over the edge that one time. Mike C.
And this is where these airplanes shine. I think I'll just replace the probe for $400. If it was an Eclipse, it would cost $18,000 and I'd be grounded for 6 months. $17,600 buys quite a bit of fuel!
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 21 Jan 2019, 19:36 |
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Could be a faulty breaker. Had one of those once, copilot pitch trim, would off the a/p. Turned out the only fault in the circuit was the breaker itself.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 21 Jan 2019, 19:38 |
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We had the same thing in a CJ3; bad breaker for the STBY ADI. Breaker was the problem.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 26 Feb 2019, 00:20 |
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Joined: 05/29/13 Posts: 14281 Post Likes: +11977 Company: Easy Ice, LLC Location: Marquette, Michigan; Scottsdale, AZ, Telluride
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Flew the C510 into KHPN today. Nice bird. Sporty winds 37 knots 40 degrees off the nose. Working it. Plane is basically as fast as the 550 but burns half the fuel. Video has some NSFW language. Click the hyperlink NOT the thumbnail. To get a sense of the turbulence orient the video as though you were looking at me from the copilot seat. [youtube]https://youtu.be/X5OyL5fD5SQ[/youtube]
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 26 Feb 2019, 00:41 |
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Username Protected wrote: Video has some NSFW language. Isn't the cockpit where you work? Why can't Garmin fix the altitude readout on Virb cameras? Makes them look like amateurs. WTF? My Virb 30 does the same thing. Mike C.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 26 Feb 2019, 00:47 |
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Joined: 05/29/13 Posts: 14281 Post Likes: +11977 Company: Easy Ice, LLC Location: Marquette, Michigan; Scottsdale, AZ, Telluride
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Username Protected wrote: Video has some NSFW language. Isn't the cockpit where you work? Why can't Garmin fix the altitude readout on Virb cameras? Makes them look like amateurs. WTF? My Virb 30 does the same thing. Mike C.
Pressurization is the issue I believe.
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