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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50  Posted: 13 Feb 2019, 23:24 |
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Username Protected wrote: For what some people consider a very limited jet, N204HS sure gets around - look at the FA history. Charter company...PR gig. http://aeroatlanta.com/aircraft-rental-fleet/N234HS
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 13 Feb 2019, 23:41 |
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Username Protected wrote: It's also a G2, so there are several FL300 and FL310 flights to look at. I'm not up to speed with the SF50 - what is a G2? Are they RVSM certified now? That is pretty cool.
Yes, its RVSM certified. You know, that thing that would never happen because its a single and would require fundamental re-engineering of the entire thing.
Oh, and nobody would ever fly those in charter service. Because that's like impossible, because its a single.
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 14 Feb 2019, 00:24 |
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Username Protected wrote: Good thing he didn't have far to travel and no pressure to get there quickly. And how many times has it been pointed out; jets and setp mostly fly how far? Tim
Probably 100 times in this 500 plus page thread. Maybe more.
Pretty much view most of my posts with the intent to be funny with a tint of sarcasm. Plus it was a little jab at Mike C for his constant criticism of the SF50 that's turned out to be a huge success. Not sure what color of font that would be so I just leave it black.
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 14 Feb 2019, 00:59 |
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What the hell is a Vision Experience Director? I guess they can charge more for that than a regular old pilot.
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 14 Feb 2019, 01:09 |
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I wonder if they’d rent it to you if you went and got typed.
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 14 Feb 2019, 09:14 |
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Username Protected wrote: Pretty much view most of my posts with the intent to be funny with a tint of sarcasm. Plus it was a little jab at Mike C for his constant criticism of the SF50 that's turned out to be a huge success. Not sure what color of font that would be so I just leave it black. The semi-official but unwritten rule is to use green. However to often, I find that sometimes still misses. So I tend to add a note next to my signature line e.g. Tim (in teacher mode) 
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 14 Feb 2019, 09:15 |
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Username Protected wrote: I wonder if they’d rent it to you if you went and got typed. There are a few places that now rent them; and one down in GA somewhere even allows you to get typed in the rental plane. They had a zero time through SF50 type rating program; PPL + IR + SF50. No price listed though! Tim
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 14 Feb 2019, 10:00 |
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Username Protected wrote: For what some people consider a very limited jet, N204HS sure gets around - look at the FA history. Noticed a number of legs with missed approaches at the end, seems like training. I wonder if any of the legs are due to fuel stops. That would create a lot of legs. Like these two: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N20 ... /KTYS/KHUThttps://flightaware.com/live/flight/N20 ... /KHUT/KDVTOn the ground 40 minutes, so seems like a fuel stop. KTYS to KDVT, 1390 nm, took 7:34 total time, block speed 184 knots, a long day wearing headsets. That's not a "jet" experience. Mike C.
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 14 Feb 2019, 10:02 |
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Username Protected wrote: the SF50 that's turned out to be a huge success. What is your definition of "huge success"? Does the Eclipse EA500 qualify? Why or why not? Mike C.
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 14 Feb 2019, 10:05 |
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Username Protected wrote: the SF50 that's turned out to be a huge success. What is your definition of "huge success"? Does the Eclipse EA500 qualify? Why or why not? Mike C.
Seems you could just re-read the thread. Ha.
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 14 Feb 2019, 10:21 |
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Username Protected wrote: And how many times has it been pointed out; jets and setp mostly fly how far? Let's look at N204HS. FA has 37.2 hours of flights, 26 legs. 82% of the time is spent on legs that exceed 1 hour. 55% of the time is spent on legs that exceed 2 hours. 36% of the time is spent on legs that exceed 3 hours. The plane can't do 4 hours reliably but some stops look like fuel stops, like the KTYS KHUT KDVT trip, and the KLAS KDTN KMYR trip. If you take out the fuel stops on those flights, then: 34% of the time is spent on trips exceeding 5 hours. You get a false impression of mission mix if you average by trips instead of by hours. Mike C.
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 14 Feb 2019, 10:47 |
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Username Protected wrote: Seems you could just re-read the thread. Ha. I've read all of Warren's posts and he doesn't define "huge success" in any of them. So my question remains, how does he define "huge success"? Mike C.
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 14 Feb 2019, 14:57 |
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Username Protected wrote: G2 added about 50lb of payload, flight level 310, quieter cabin, new seat configurations, auto throttle, and a little speed. And additional range. I think it was another 150 miles; due to the altitude. Tim
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