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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II  Posted: 08 Nov 2018, 21:01 |
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Username Protected wrote: CJ2 trip next week. Weds: Sdl-aus. Thursday: aus dal. Friday dal Sdl
Who wants to fly right seat? Would love to join you but to much of a practice/geography challenge. Cool post. You are a gentleman and a class act.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 09 Nov 2018, 05:41 |
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Username Protected wrote: CJ2 trip next week. Weds: Sdl-aus. Thursday: aus dal. Friday dal Sdl
Who wants to fly right seat? What time are you doing AUS-DAL?
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 09 Nov 2018, 08:24 |
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Username Protected wrote: CJ2 trip next week. Weds: Sdl-aus. Thursday: aus dal. Friday dal Sdl
Who wants to fly right seat? What time are you doing AUS-DAL?
7:30am ish.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 09 Nov 2018, 08:33 |
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Username Protected wrote:
7:30am ish.
Shame :( I'm doing my ATP-CTP that week so I can't do that :( I fly DAL-AUS-DAL almost every day, would've been nice to do it in a jet too.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 12 Nov 2018, 01:56 |
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Username Protected wrote: Mark, when you departed Ogden, did your clearance include a fix from the Wasatch VOR, like 50nm on the 296 radial? I always seem to get goofy departure clearances out of there. Wasatch 193 @ 89miles. Affirm. Easy in the Garmin. Gave up on FMS. We intercepted the radial south of TCH and shortly thereafter got a Direct FLG.DSERT2.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 12 Nov 2018, 02:32 |
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Username Protected wrote: Mark, when you departed Ogden, did your clearance include a fix from the Wasatch VOR, like 50nm on the 296 radial? I always seem to get goofy departure clearances out of there. Wasatch 193 @ 89miles. Affirm. Easy in the Garmin. Gave up on FMS. We intercepted the radial south of TCH and shortly thereafter got a Direct FLG.DSERT2.
Wouldn't the FMS accept TCH193/89 as a waypoint?
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 12 Nov 2018, 02:47 |
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Wasatch 193 @ 89miles. Affirm. Easy in the Garmin. Gave up on FMS.
We intercepted the radial south of TCH and shortly thereafter got a Direct FLG.DSERT2.
Wouldn't the FMS accept TCH193/89 as a waypoint?[/quote] Have to check that. It’s such a rare event. We just used the Garmin in this case. Wasn’t worth the hassle of figuring it out to be honest.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 12 Nov 2018, 03:06 |
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Wasatch 193 @ 89miles. Affirm. Easy in the Garmin. Gave up on FMS.
We intercepted the radial south of TCH and shortly thereafter got a Direct FLG.DSERT2.
Wouldn't the FMS accept TCH193/89 as a waypoint?
Have to check that. It’s such a rare event. We just used the Garmin in this case. Wasn’t worth the hassle of figuring it out to be honest.[/quote]
Ok. It sometimes is helpful with ad-hoc holds. "hold north on the 355 radial of XYZ VOR 15 DME"
Collins I think takes TCH193/89, Honeywell Apex is TCH/193/89. I'm not sure what your FMS would take.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 12 Nov 2018, 05:41 |
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Username Protected wrote: Actually a CJ2. John L. We flew to Ogden Utah from Scottsdale and back. So who is to blame for not setting 1013 on the standby  Edit. OK you are on descent. I forgot your transition is so high Andrew
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Username Protected wrote: Actually a CJ2. John L. We flew to Ogden Utah from Scottsdale and back. Mark what’s the full fuel payload in the 2? Also someone mentioned that Jettech might have a fuel computer to work with the 750?
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 12 Nov 2018, 10:36 |
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Username Protected wrote: Mark what’s the full fuel payload in the 2? Also someone mentioned that Jettech might have a fuel computer to work with the 750? The CJ2 I fly has the Jettech STC and does have a fuel computer that works through the GTN 750’s. It works and I use it but if I were having to pay for it I’d probably pass on that option. I find the fuel gauges are so accurate that it becomes a simple math problem to do any fuel calculations, makes it hardly seem worth the extra $$ to have the computer.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 12 Nov 2018, 18:59 |
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Username Protected wrote: Mark, when you departed Ogden, did your clearance include a fix from the Wasatch VOR, like 50nm on the 296 radial? I always seem to get goofy departure clearances out of there. Wasatch 193 @ 89miles. Affirm. Easy in the Garmin. Gave up on FMS. We intercepted the radial south of TCH and shortly thereafter got a Direct FLG.DSERT2.
It seems they always give a radial-fix coming out of OGD. Not sure why. When I'm westbound it's always TCH 296/50. I looked at the chart and there's a waypoint there, HOGUP. I asked the controller why they didn't use HOGUP, and he said he didn't know. He just reads what's printed on the clearance. One of these days I'll figure it out.
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