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Post subject: Re: Stalling an Aerocommander Posted: 29 Apr 2018, 16:08 |
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Username Protected wrote: The most important function of a pusher system is the ability to turn it off. In a PC12, you should never do this. EVER. Uncommanded push only happens in the sim.
Well, if the plane ever decided to behave like the sim then I would like to be able to turn the system off.
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Post subject: Re: Stalling an Aerocommander Posted: 29 Apr 2018, 16:24 |
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I've stalled both my Commanders, and both of them have behaved very benign with mild wing drops. The 690B (that this is) has a slightly longer wing, so would probably behave a little differently. I don't see this as a nasty drop, but perhaps 'defined'.
They have gobs of rudder authority, but what I have noticed on mine is that they can get a little squirrely at low speeds with applying power when it comes in asymmetrical. Came in the other night to Garden City and was a little slow on the final, so added some power. Had to work the rudder pretty hard to straighten her up. In the end it was just easier to cut the power as I had the threshold made and make a firmer landing. Best to set the power slightly higher and ideally not touch it at all during final stages except to roll it off, is the take home lesson.
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Post subject: Re: Stalling an Aerocommander Posted: 29 Apr 2018, 16:32 |
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Username Protected wrote: Since you are discussing technical details of aerodynamics, it seems important to use the correct terminology. Post corrected, thank you. Mike C.
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Post subject: Re: Stalling an Aerocommander Posted: 29 Apr 2018, 19:37 |
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Username Protected wrote: Does the NG AFM actually specify when the pusher activates? You said 1kts before stall, in Legacy AFM it just says "predefined AOA"? Mikko, The NG AFM does list a stall speed chart in the performance charts but they define a stall when the pusher activates. As far as the 1 knot above aerodynamic stall, I have it in my Flight safety notes but I cannot find a reference. I thought it was in the Honeywell Apex pilots guide but now I cannot find it so take it for what’s it worth.
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