Why was the V more difficult to fly then the II?

Sorry I'm late coming back to the party. I haven't flown the Phenom 100. My company made the purchase decision before I came to fly it, but from talking with the CEO hot/high performance on the 100 was pretty bad compared to the M2. At the time it also was G1000 which was a pretty significant negative since it was older technology. I think the 100EV fixed both of these issues. I flew a Phenom 300E and was really impressed. Although the cockpit was even tighter...again I don't think pilot comfort is the #1 design factor!

Why was the V more difficult to fly then the II?

So Garmins, a less grumpy DPE, and keeping up with the speed solved most of the problems?

It doesn't take much weight in the nose to bring the CG forward.

I'm seriously considering an Ultra, hence my interest.

Mike C.

Mike: it was about two years ago. At that time, standards were not the same among FSDO areas and some clearly looked at SP as a very high bar. The original FMS set ups contemplated crew and didn’t consider how an SP might have to divide his/her attention. Just something to consider. On the old systems, even if you knew them cold, it could take awhile to get through the menus and program. Changes to plans might not happen quickly. I had several times the instructor had a set up err.
Look at weight and balance. In the II, it would take over 100 pounds ballast in the nose for me to fly SP. I don’t have that calc here. I had it on software the new IOS won’t run. You may have more natural ballast than me :-). I’m under 150.

Old avionics on these could be a major deal. Some flew with a single gps/FMS with no backup. Could be expensive to upgrade. Wonderful bird, just things to consider.

John,

It will. Cessna ran some of my typical long range missions for me which are close to yours: OKC to LA is 1,026NM and at high speed cruise and 71 knot headwind it's a 3:19 trip at FL40. 634 lbs of Payload plus pilot (me) let's me bring my wife, two sons and luggage. Land with 633 of fuel.

Going the other way is better at 2:42 with average 17 knot tailwind, FL41 and land with 661 lbs. Can take 1121 of payload, they say, on that trip.

Supposedly, the M2 can make it OKC to BOS in 3:20 with 717 payload plus me and land with 637 lbs. That's 1303NM. It certainly can't get back without a stop.

I don't think that I'd be comfortable with under an hour of fuel going into either place though.

For the cost of a new one, or even a used one at this point, I'm more interested in a CJ2 or possibly CJ3. I don't see the point of having a plane that I regularly have to make the stop in. I have that now. I certainly wouldn't trade for a Mustang.

As to avionics I don't know how the G3000 does vertical climbs and descent but every jet pilot I've spoken with likes the PL21 system, especially the FMS. I can certainly live with that.

Funny,
I flew a Mustang on a demo flight a few years back left seat.
Easier on takeoff than my TBM as no need to watch torque or ITT with t/o detent and full fadec.
I agree, an M2 does everything better than a Mustang for not much more $.
Im sure after flying a few months at 400 kts, you will find it slow and which you could do 450.

Well that is what I was told.

Uh, yeah, just a wee bit more.

"Honey, does this dress make me look fat?"

"No dear, you look naturally ballasted!"

Mike C.

In addition to the bleed air, legacy Citations have an alcohol spray bar on the pilots's side. This uses isopropyl alcohol when the pilot turns it on. There is a 0.5 gallon tank which lasts 10 minutes. It is described in the manual as a backup to the bleed air heat.

Mike C.

Uh, yeah, just a wee bit more.

"Honey, does this dress make me look fat?"

"No dear, you look naturally ballasted!"

Mike C.

In addition to the bleed air, legacy Citations have an alcohol spray bar on the pilots's side. This uses isopropyl alcohol when the pilot turns it on. There is a 0.5 gallon tank which lasts 10 minutes. It is described in the manual as a backup to the bleed air heat.

Mike C.

Used Mustangs are in the 1.7 - 2.2 range. Used M2 is about 3.5.

Not much more?

i have...by mistake, Honestly, i don't encounter much ice of note and i have flown to most lower continental states. Once we started flying Citations the apprehension of the 310 pretty much went aaway.

My booted/hot prop/alcy ws 310 hasn't scared me once.

Same with the turbo commanders...turned back one with an unbalanced prop due to ice IMC over the sierra nevada..

Tuned it so quickly that i had my first and only unusual attitude, Self induced. Plenty of training...so I had no fear. Got the ship righted and the problem resolved. Needed a new prop boot.