Obviously, one doesn't blast off to Hawaii without doing a little research first.....

Which reminds of a question I've been asked several times about the Mustang.
Question: Can you fly it to Hawaii?
Answer: No, but I can shorten the swim by 1,000 miles.

Which reminds of a question I've been asked several times about the Mustang.
Question: Can you fly it to Hawaii?
Answer: No, but I can shorten the swim by 1,000 miles.

It will, they had it into Steamboat Springs with no problem...........

They have some great promotional shots of the airplane in Telluride too. David and Debbie Young took a flight, so hopefully they will offer a report from the back.

It's quite a bit wider than the P300. After seeing the 24 I have no desire to own the p300.

They have spoilers and brakes that are hard core on the 24. So far they think that runway contamination will only add about 400 to 500 feet for landing.

It's quite a bit wider than the P300. After seeing the 24 I have no desire to own the p300.

They have spoilers and brakes that are hard core on the 24. So far they think that runway contamination will only add about 400 to 500 feet for landing.[/quote]
George Antoniadis (President and CEO of PlaneSense) graciously invited us to fly from KFLL (Ft Lauderdale International) to Ocean Reef (07FA) and then to Palm Beach International (KPBI) on s/n 1. The plane and its performance are nothing less than stunning: we were 5 passengers (and two pilots); the plane took off before the 1000 ft marker. The acceleration is pronounced and the deck angle is 15° (wow!). Despite filing for 10,000 ft and telling ATC this was a Pilatus Jet, ATC never gave us higher than 2,000 ft. So we had a lovely flight along the shoreline at 200 kts. The braking was as impressive as the acceleration. The spoilers are pretty big too. The landing distance is ~2525 ft; the mains have two wheels on each side, each with brakes (no thrust reversers). The plane had just returned from Staniel Cay (MYES) so it can certainly land and takeoff in 3000 ft. The takeoff balanced field length at MTOW (sea level, ISA) is ~2,690 ft, and ~4,430 ft at MTOW, ISA +20°C & 5,000 ft. On takeoff from 07FA, we got an unrestricted climb to 10,000 ft, and climbed at ~4,000 ft/min and ~170 kts. Sadly, the flight was barely 20 minutes long. It was a blast sitting in the back; we’re pretty sure the guys up front enjoyed it just as much!

Some more numbers: normal cruise is 0.74 mach, LRC is 0.72. Long range cruise with 3 passengers (and 2 pilots) is 1650 nm.

The interior is light, airy and modern – it’s very pleasing (George A was very involved in the design details and decisions). The arrangement chosen is for 8 passengers (and a crew of two, although the plane is certified for single pilot operations). The two seats up front face aft, while the remaining six seats face forward. This is to maximize the ability of the seats to recline. George explained that in a 2 club seating arrangement, the middle 4 seats are limited in their ability to recline because they are back to back. The seats were certainly very comfortable, with tons of room. No problem carrying a conversation across the aisle or to the next row. Interestingly, there is no separate APU; the starboard engine is run at low power to provide the functions of an APU.

We can’t thank George enough for inviting us on these impromptu flights.[/quote]

Color me GREEN!! Thanks for the write up.

Even though the plane is single pilot, all the pilots I know have a restriction that they must have an SIC. Is this common with companies that operate single pilot airplanes with 2 pilots?

The ever-important pictures:

All the pilots you know?

Or

All the charter outfits you know?

Planesense runs PC12s with 2 pilots. I can’t imagine how bored those guys are.

I mean all the PC24 typed pilots I know. Their type says PC24 and then in the restrictions it says "PC24 SIC required". Just curious if it says this on like netjets Phenom 300 guys types too.

I do not believe that NetJets pilots get the single pilot type rating, so I believe they have the SIC Required limitation like above.

I know when I was in initial on the Phenom 300 I did the single pilot type; the Flight Options guys that were in my class only did the crew type rating. The class was about a 50/50 split between those going for single pilot and those going as a crew type. The Options guys hinted that it was to “limit” their ability to leave, but a 300 type is in pretty high demand either way.

The type for a SP on a 300 is noted different than say a CJ, the CJ is a 525 for crew, 525S for single pilot. The 300 are all EMB505, that is all for SP, the crew have the “SIC Required” addition.

Brad

I do not believe that NetJets pilots get the single pilot type rating, so I believe they have the SIC Required limitation like above.

I know when I was in initial on the Phenom 300 I did the single pilot type; the Flight Options guys that were in my class only did the crew type rating. The class was about a 50/50 split between those going for single pilot and those going as a crew type. The Options guys hinted that it was to “limit” their ability to leave, but a 300 type is in pretty high demand either way.

The type for a SP on a 300 is noted different than say a CJ, the CJ is a 525 for crew, 525S for single pilot. The 300 are all EMB505, that is all for SP, the crew have the “SIC Required” addition.

Brad