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Post subject: Re: SIAI Marchetti (turbine Bird Dog) Posted: 14 Feb 2018, 15:04 |
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The superdog 2 as what looks like a 180 or 188 tail, the 185 as the bigger ampennage. The turbine bird dog as a different tail but the fuselage looks like a standard Bird dog fuselage but may have been reinforced for the bigger engine and more fuel. Username Protected wrote: David, I think you've given me the clue I've been looking for. Thanks! I've been thinking about it. The regular birddogs like mine have the 195 tail. The bigger tail was taken from the 185's - I think. Still, it looks a bit shorter than the SIAI tail. Could a 185 tail be modified? Is the SIAI in the experimental exhibition category? That might simplify things. Good luck!!!
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Post subject: Re: SIAI Marchetti (turbine Bird Dog) Posted: 14 Feb 2018, 17:21 |
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Username Protected wrote: Del... check your PM for the info you need. Mike Got it. Thanks for all your help!!
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Post subject: Re: SIAI Marchetti (turbine Bird Dog) Posted: 14 Feb 2018, 22:34 |
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Username Protected wrote: I follow this guy on youtube who flies a PC-12 and one of these out of his private field in the southern alps somewhere. This little plane looks like great fun and safety. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kf5mhRPIkwsI’m not the jealous type but this guy does have it made!
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Post subject: Re: SIAI Marchetti (turbine Bird Dog) Posted: 15 Feb 2018, 14:28 |
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Username Protected wrote: Anyone know what these go for, can't find any for sale online...
AG $150k plus or minus $50k. Expensive to insure as you can imagine in this market. Bill Woods / Western Wings had one or sale late last year. Looked like a blast. T
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Post subject: Re: SIAI Marchetti (turbine Bird Dog) Posted: 15 Feb 2018, 14:57 |
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Username Protected wrote: Anyone know what these go for, can't find any for sale online...
AG $150k plus or minus $50k. Expensive to insure as you can imagine in this market. Bill Woods / Western Wings had one or sale late last year. Looked like a blast. T
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Post subject: Re: SIAI Marchetti (turbine Bird Dog) Posted: 15 Feb 2018, 17:07 |
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Cessna built 25 or 27 square-tail Super Bird Dogs for USMC in 1955; the OE-2 (Cessna 321). At some point it was redesignated O1-C, but it is not the classic L19/O-1. The TC has been cancelled/withdrawn. Many were lost (Korea). There were five remaining with VMO-6 in Okinawa during 1967(?). I visited the Navy Archives and the Naval Aviation Museum. The paper trail ends there. I have found two in CONUS. Neither are flying. One is still owned by Cessna, and bail’d To a trade school. The other is in private hands and the owner is quite a rascal ... not at all keen that I was able to find him or the plane. He believes that it is worth an even-up trade for a (Grand Champion Warbird grade) Corsair. https://airfactsjournal.com/2013/04/the ... ary-model/I have considerably more info on the orphan if anyone is interested.
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Post subject: Re: SIAI Marchetti (turbine Bird Dog) Posted: 15 Feb 2018, 18:22 |
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Username Protected wrote: Did not Frank Borman own one of these that was just for sale with a hopped up engine? There was a ad here on BT with a bunch of high res pics. Yup, this one. viewtopic.php?f=51&t=136251&hilit=Marchetti
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Post subject: Re: SIAI Marchetti (turbine Bird Dog) Posted: 16 Feb 2018, 12:46 |
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Joined: 12/20/15 Posts: 184 Post Likes: +69 Location: AZ
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I flew Bill’s this past summer...fun airplane. It feels like you are in a helicopter. Insurance is STEEP.
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Post subject: Re: SIAI Marchetti (turbine Bird Dog) Posted: 28 Jun 2018, 18:29 |
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Joined: 07/22/14 Posts: 9250 Post Likes: +16538 Company: Mountain Airframe LLC Location: Mena, Arkansas
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Rather than make extensive repairs to ferry the aircraft from Joplin to Mena, it was far more economical to remove the damaged surfaces in Joplin and trailer them home. We repaired everything; had to fab everything except the outboard wing rib. It was a challenging project, more on that later. We learned there are MANY differences in the structure of this Marchetti compared to a L-19. We painted all the surfaces, then sent a crew to Joplin to reassemble the aircraft. The owner has been flying the plane, even been out west doing some back country flying. He called yesterday and said he would arrive Mena on Sunday so we could begin work on landing gear improvement mod he wants us to design. I get a text this morning from the owner that says "left Montana early, dropping Marchetti about noon". He made it at 12:30. Better pictures and back story soon. Attachment: SU SU III.JPG Attachment: SU SU III2.JPG Attachment: SU SU III3.JPG Attachment: SU SU III4.JPG Just a side shot comparison Attachment: Bird Dog.JPG
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