You can't be serious. I just laugh at these comments.

The "existing market" is "people who want to buy an airplane". The "existing market" is "wherever airplanes are currently being sold".

By your logic, if someone built a working Teleporter (beam me up Scotty) nobody would want it because there is no "existing market".

THIS!

It's gonna sell like hotcakes. I am hoping the plane I want gets traded in for one in the next few years

I think the bigger question would be, "How long do they want it and what is it worth after they're done with it?" It is very true that people look for ways to spend their money, and will spend it for what they have the whim to get their hands on. More power to Cirrus, I hope every high school grows up to desire one.

You can't be serious. I just laugh at these comments.

The "existing market" is "people who want to buy an airplane". The "existing market" is "wherever airplanes are currently being sold".

By your logic, if someone built a working Teleporter (beam me up Scotty) nobody would want it because there is no "existing market".

Pilatus is selling lots of single-engine turbine aircraft for those who need/want to haul lots of stuff.

Cirrus is selling a single engine turbine, for those who don't need to haul lots of stuff. Perhaps just want to wing over to Napa for a wine tasting with a couple of friends.

Single engine turboprops are also single engine jets, the fact the engine turns a prop is of little consequence.

If I may add, allow people to make their own decisions without ridicule. For example, I never would spend a million dollars on a piston anything. Doesn't mean "I'm right" and the person who would is "wrong". Just have different likes/needs.

-Keith

Ka Boom. Totally agree.

As for my opinion regarding "spending $1MM+ on a piston plane".... I'm just relaying what the market is saying. The Market doesn't lie. Yes, SR22's are "close to $1MM" but they're not "over $1MM". I'm talking about the "over $1MM" piston planes.

There is going to be a secondary market, just like there is a secondary market for Meridians and CJs. If limitations on payload and range caused a significant number of buyers to drop their planes at a loss, you could buy a 5 year old Meridian at 600k. Regrettably you can't.

At least list price, there is currently no SR22 that costs more than a million. Even the 'million' is a canard as the only way to get there is to load up every option on a SR22T. A SR22 with deice and AC is somewhere around 630, a SR22T with deice and AC is 750 or so. Only by adding all the flimflam like color matched lipstick and unicorn leather you can get anywhere close to a mil. Looking at the used market, most SR22x are ordered with all the options marked off, it suggests that once the decision to buy an airplane is made, the market is not particularly sensitive to another 150 or 200k.

At least list price, there is currently no SR22 that costs more than a million.

You can't be serious. I just laugh at these comments.

The "existing market" is "people who want to buy an airplane". The "existing market" is "wherever airplanes are currently being sold".

By your logic, if someone built a working Teleporter (beam me up Scotty) nobody would want it because there is no "existing market".

That was also the issue with Beech. Form a TN A-36, there was no single engine step- up. One could go to a P-Baron (which I did), and that gave some extra capability and load, but not a big step up in performance. From the P-Baron, Beech wanted folks to go to the King Air and many did, but that wasn't really a GA aircraft. Expensive to purchase and maintain. To me, Beech really missed an opportunity when they passed on a single engine turbine. Same with the jet line which pushed me to the Citation II.
As to the TBM and Pilatus, they were very large jumps in capital cost. The Pilatus was much bigger in size of course. The M500 is something I just could never get my arms around. Maybe it's me.
There is still a need for a $2MM step up from a single IMO, but to me, more along the P-Baron range and payload which was about 600 pounds and 1,000+ NM. That's also what my TN A-36 could do. So, to step up to the SF50, one would have to forgo payload or range.

Who would do that progression, no one. I don't believe "progressing up the brand chain" is a real thing.

Exactly. Jet, piston, electric; prop or no prop; none of that matters.

One of the missing details, so far, on the SF50 is the maintenance schedule. A lot of us who could have stepped up to something used are stopped by the costs of ownership; we could afford to buy more airplane than we're willing to live with. The SF50 is touted as the first "personal" airplane in its class, not originally aimed at a deep-pocketed, high utilization corporate customer, so they get it. It'll be interesting to see what that translates to.

Who would do that progression, no one. I don't believe "progressing up the brand chain" is a real thing.

Who would do that progression, no one. I don't believe "progressing up the brand chain" is a real thing.