The other flights diverted off that route because of the weather that they were painting.

The incompetence comes into play when AF447 was relying on a radar that was not properly adjusted.

When the radar was finally set properly they made a too small of a deviation for weather. Possibly because they could not contact somebody for permission.

The HF was bad because of the weather and they had not been able to log on.

As long as they stayed within 10 miles of course they were legal without ATC approval.

To deviate beyond that distance requires a change in altitude by 300ft. Did they know that procedure?

That's what they should have done to avoid the storm and the icing.

I'd love to look at this data. Where is it?

I think I agree with the thought process here... just not the conclusion.

I do not believe having a type rating makes one a better pilot or lessens the chance of a fatal crash. I do believe proper training is a factor. You could argue that being able to obtain the type rating proves proper training, but we all know that it really doesn't.

I have seen guys who were typed that were dangerous, their training wasn't what it should have been... but they did pass the ride. I have also flown with guys who took their training very serious even though they do not need to be typed in their aircraft.

Proper training is the key, and I don't think you can "require" it... you either want to be a professional pilot who is an expert in a particular machine... or you don't.

Three times safer isn't substantial?

I think the numbers disagree. And I would think your more professional pilots are typed, if only by necessity.

It seems the SETP chart just covers 2012 while the King Air chart covers cumulative flight hours over many years.

Am I reading it wrong?

Those are cumulative numbers for the entire fleets. The question is how does one get those numbers, since they are not reliably recorded anywhere for most aircraft.

Charles,

My apologies... I misinterpreted your point. Yes, the 200 and 350 are similar, but training requirement (at least with US FAA) and safety records are different.

Jason,

I think the fleet size is as of 2012 and that hours flown is cumulative over the life of the model. I really didn't have a good perspective of this until just this morning when I read an article about the TBM (according to a TBM publication dated May 2016):

Total TBM fleet : 767
Total fleet time : 1,300,933

It also said the TBM fleet was flying 120,000 hours per year.

Hopefully that provides some perspective?

Matt

If you don't want to be a pro, you avoid aircraft that require typing. Self selection is going on.

If you get typed, you are improved.

There are bad typed pilots, of course, but not the norm, and we write a lot about them in CrashTalk.

I've seen the self selection process first hand. A good number of MU2 owners sold when the SFAR came about, not wanting to be subjecting to the training. Somewhat surprisingly, a good number of new owners showed up with enthusiasm about the training.

Mike C.

It has 1/4th the cumulative hours of the 200 too. Like you said..... Where'd they get that info?

I don't have anyone asking me how many hours are on my airplane. I get all me service done at the dealership and there's a chance the dealer sends the info back to the manufacturer but a lot of planes don't get serviced at the dealer.

They sold because they knew their airplane was about to take a dump and they'd never get rid of it long term.

How many MU2's flights are there every day? 2 or 3? Compare that to hundreds of SR22 flights a day. There's no comparison.

Flying an airplane that's trying to kill you doesn't make you a better pilot. Extra training to overcome a design flaw doesn't make you a better pilot.

It has 1/4th the cumulative hours of the 200 too. Like you said..... Where'd they get that info?

I don't have anyone asking me how many hours are on my airplane. I get all me service done at the dealership and there's a chance the dealer sends the info back to the manufacturer but a lot of planes don't get serviced at the dealer.