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 Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50
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Cirrus must be reading BT. Got my invite to the love fest in Scottsdale. I think I'll even get to sit in the FMHC.

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 Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50
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You wanted apples to apples both are single engine jets. :eek: :bugeye: :bow:

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If you compare the SF50 to other single engine jets like the F16 or the F105 it stills comes out poorly!


In what way? You can only compare XC performance and payload available inside the pressure vessel without afterburner. Maximum performance turn rate/radius, energy addition, available load factor and external payload are irrelevant to this discussion of aircraft whose primary mission is XC.

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Nice work! I owe you a beer at OSH. Impressed.

Its still slower than the FMHC.

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 Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50
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I'd take that over any cirrus any day. :pilot:


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 Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50
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I'd take that over any cirrus any day. :pilot:


Me too! :drool:

P.S. What about the other one?

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This one is not as cool, hence my jailhouse crack dealer approach to pawn it off on Crandall! :rock: :rock:


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 Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50
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This one is not as cool, hence my jailhouse crack dealer approach to pawn it off on Crandall! :rock: :rock:


You're totally right... I'd rather fly my family in that POS that burns 3 times the fuel for about the same speed. I mean, if I was hauling drugs, I'd choose your loadstar... But hauling drugs ain't my thing. YMMV.

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 Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50
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This one is not as cool, hence my jailhouse crack dealer approach to pawn it off on Crandall! :rock: :rock:


You're totally right... I'd rather fly my family in that POS that burns 3 times the fuel burn for about the same speed. I mean, if I was hauling drugs, I'd choose your loadmaster... But hauling drugs ain't my thing. YMMV.


Careful Matt. My buddy who works are Google says the #1 plane Cirrus buyers cross shop is the Beech 18, followed closely by the Stinson 108.

That Beech 18 is a beauty. No denying that.
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 Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50
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Dislike of Matt's and my posts. Interesting. Someone needs to put their big boy pants on and lighten up. I took care of Matt's dislike.

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This one is not as cool, hence my jailhouse crack dealer approach to pawn it off on Crandall! :rock: :rock:

I'm not sure what we're talking about anymore.


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anybody heard that ?

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Type rating + turbine = more safe

CAPS has 88 foot diameter chute
Fewer scenarios where it will be used, e.g., pilot incapacitation and out of fuel.

Plan to deliver 50 planes the first year after TC is in hand, and eventually ramp up to 125 per year.

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I don't get the perceived consternation about type ratings. The insurance companies will require XYZ training for most any turbine with a prop or not. It's not really any more to do a type rating, just a checkride. Anyone who's going to spend the money to buy one and the time to get trained for one, isn't going to lose any sleep over a checkride at the end.


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