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Post subject: A320 VS B737 Posted: 25 Apr 2016, 11:11 |
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AOPA has a interesting article on the differences between the B737 and A320, both staples of the short / medium haul market in the airline world. Since my interaction with the heavy iron is basically limited to passenger status, I tend to choose the Boeing product thinking the Airbus is a flying computer and limits the pilots inputs. Are there members in this fórum who "play" with heavy iron and can elaborate more on the differences and preferences of each brand of airplane and specifically the 737 and A320?
Rgs,
Patrick
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Post subject: Re: A320 VS B737 Posted: 25 Apr 2016, 14:16 |
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Username Protected wrote: I'm with Larry on this one, given a choice.
If Sully had been flying a Boeing, his name would not be a household word. On a Boeing, the engines may have been belching fire and smoke but probably would have made enough thrust for an uneventful landing at Newark(He only had to go a few more miles). The computer on the 'bus shut them down to save the engines, how did that work out?? Sigh. Read the accident report. You have no idea what you're talking about. There is no way for the fadec to initiate an auto shutdown while airborne. Fadec is fadec be it Boeing or Airbus.
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Post subject: Re: A320 VS B737 Posted: 25 Apr 2016, 14:28 |
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Username Protected wrote: I'm with Larry on this one, given a choice.
If Sully had been flying a Boeing, his name would not be a household word. On a Boeing, the engines may have been belching fire and smoke but probably would have made enough thrust for an uneventful landing at Newark(He only had to go a few more miles). The computer on the 'bus shut them down to save the engines, how did that work out?? Sigh. Read the accident report. Yes, But I'm skeptical, if what I said was true, it would really hurt the airlinesYou have no idea what you're talking about. True fact, I have never been trained to fly an airlinerThere is no way for the fadec to initiate an auto shutdown while airborne. Not what I had heard, thanks for the info, that changes thingsFadec is fadec be it Boeing or Airbus. I became skeptical of the accident reports after TWA 800.
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Post subject: Re: A320 VS B737 Posted: 25 Apr 2016, 14:29 |
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Username Protected wrote: Rode the scarebus for the first time lately and I was really surprised how noisy it was. Not the engines in cruise but anytime the gear or flaps were moved it sounded like something wasn't very happy. A fellow passenger told me it was normal (or common, I don't remember). I think you're referring to the weird squeak/groan "wrenching noise" that seems to go on for odd intervals forever after takeoff. It sounds like someone is trying to make chinchilla wine "the old way" by stomping on them in a vat. I dunno what it is, but it's wildly "imprecise" sounding. I hate that noise. Not because I think it's dangerous -- it just makes me think it's a giant kludge to solve a problem the engineers didn't get right. I hadn't heard that amusing FUD about Sully before. Gonna add it to the list. 
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Post subject: Re: A320 VS B737 Posted: 25 Apr 2016, 14:47 |
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Username Protected wrote: I'm with Larry on this one, given a choice.
If Sully had been flying a Boeing, his name would not be a household word. On a Boeing, the engines may have been belching fire and smoke but probably would have made enough thrust for an uneventful landing at Newark(He only had to go a few more miles). The computer on the 'bus shut them down to save the engines, how did that work out?? Sigh. Read the accident report. You have no idea what you're talking about. There is no way for the fadec to initiate an auto shutdown while airborne. Fadec is faded be it Boeing or Airbus.
Would disagree.. the Boeing would have NOT shut down and we would have never known Sully. Agree with Jon.
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Post subject: Re: A320 VS B737 Posted: 25 Apr 2016, 15:35 |
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The Airbus noise is a PTU (power transfer unit). It can transfer power but not fluid to a unpowered hydraulic system. Mostly used on the ground.
Not sure about engines shutting down on one airframe more than the other?
There are multiple engine choices to be had for each airframe.
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Post subject: Re: A320 VS B737 Posted: 25 Apr 2016, 15:47 |
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Username Protected wrote: The Airbus noise is a PTU (power transfer unit). It can transfer power but not fluid to a unpowered hydraulic system. Mostly used on the ground.
Not sure about engines shutting down on one airframe more than the other?
There are multiple engine choices to be had for each airframe. Is that the "barking dog" sound?
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Post subject: Re: A320 VS B737 Posted: 25 Apr 2016, 15:56 |
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Even though both the B777 & B787 are fly by wire, meaning flight control inputs are converted to digital signals going to various components of the Primary Flight Control computers, Boeing made a decision to NEVER take the airplane away from the pilot!
What that translates to is that the PFC's may be flown beyond the normal flight envelope but they will never stop a pilot action from being completed. That includes Tail Strike Protection, Overbank Protection, and many others.
As has been presented to me, Airbus never gives the airplane to the pilot . . .
Several years ago I received a technical comparison of Boeing/Airbus. It's on my Boeing Computer and I'll see if I can find it.
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