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Post subject: Re: Low and slow, anything besides a Cub ? Posted: 27 Sep 2015, 23:50 |
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Your mooney has distorted your ability to judge "slow" (lucky you)! A C150 couldn't ever come close to a 140 knots, Vne is 141. Much closer to 105 knots, however only about 6-7 GPH.
Anyway, take a look at Super Decathlons. I don't have any experience with them myself, but from what I've heard/seen, it might just fit your needs. Gives you more flexibility than something so slow and restrictive, like a 150 yet still keeps the cool low and slow feel. Not quite sure about the cheap entry fee though.
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Post subject: Re: Low and slow, anything besides a Cub ? Posted: 28 Sep 2015, 07:00 |
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Joined: 09/29/10 Posts: 5660 Post Likes: +4882 Company: USAF Simulator Instructor Location: Wichita Valley Airport (F14)
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Luscombe and Ercoupe. We have one of each. Both are great cruising around airplanes. Ercoupe values are up because most of them are light sport. Luscombe values are down a bit (but rising recently) because most of them are not light sport. J-3s are way over-priced for the airframe you get; you are paying a premium for the Cub aura, which is worth something, I suppose.
The Ercoupe can be flown with the canopy open or closed (and you can open or close it inflight) and is a comfortable aircraft flown topless. The doors can be removed from the Luscombe with four bolts and it flies great that way (cue the "it ain't legal, need approved data, STC, yada, yada" crowd). Both aircraft are easier to enter and exit than a Cub. The Ercoupe is easier than a Bo or Mooney - step on wing, step on seat, sit down. Both will fly formation on a Cub all day long at 70 mph burning about the same fuel as a Cub - a little over 4 gph. Or you can "push it up" to 5.5 to 6 gph and leave the Cub in the dust (relatively speaking) at 100 mph! The Luscombe is the better plane for sightseeing with the high wing; the Ercoupe is more comfortable for longer flights due to the wide cockpit and no rudder pedals and has much better all-round visibility (bubble canopy, just like and F-15!)
Get the 85 hp in either aircraft and do a good inspection for corrosion (as you would in any old aircraft). 60+ year-old aircraft are highly variable in their condition. In the end, I would by the airplane, regardless of make and model, with a clean airframe, no corrosion, good logs, recent overhaul and neat appearance that sells for a fair price and tugs at your heartstrings. Good luck and enjoy.
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Post subject: Re: Low and slow, anything besides a Cub ? Posted: 28 Sep 2015, 07:35 |
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I'll vote for the Champ but I'm biased. Best flying airplane with good room for both pilot and passenger. Given the choice I'd opt for an 85 but my 65 has never failed me. I'm well over 1000 hrs in it; early morning and late evening are the best!
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Post subject: Re: Low and slow, anything besides a Cub ? Posted: 28 Sep 2015, 08:17 |
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J-3, PA-18, Champ, L-19, and Stearman are my favorites. Second tier choices (mostly due to flying qualities that don't quite match the first group) would include any of the Citabria line and the Husky. Sealed cabins and yokes go against the grain of the "low and slow" mentality, so avoid them if you want the real thing.
Someone earlier mentioned the Luscombe. They are great flying little planes and when I had mine, I'm almost sure that I remember the POH allowing flying with the doors removed. Unlike Cubs, the performance really suffers when you pull the doors off.
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Post subject: Re: Low and slow, anything besides a Cub ? Posted: 28 Sep 2015, 08:27 |
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Joined: 01/13/09 Posts: 1120 Post Likes: +882 Location: Boise, Idaho
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You only mentioned certified aircraft. Open up the choices to experimental and there is a huge pile of options. Most of them cheaper than any certified flavor.
My personal choice would be a Bowers Flybaby. Its a single seater, though. A Pietenpol Aircamper is also great, but the ones I've been in require gymnastics moves to get into (especially the front pit).
_________________ Frank Stutzman '49 A35 Bonanza ("the Hula Girl") Boise, ID
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