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Post subject: Re: The definitive Piaggio P180 Avanti thread. Posted: 26 Jul 2015, 18:26 |
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Joined: 12/19/11 Posts: 3303 Post Likes: +1424 Company: Bottom Line Experts Location: KTOL - Toledo, OH
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Username Protected wrote: just flew 6 of us plus bags from Seattle to Atlanta in 6 hours.
Seattle to Atlanta --1900 nm direct -- in 6 hours? I'm curious about such a flight. You have a flight track or Flight Aware that shows that flight?
Very plausible west to east. Requires 320kts which is about a 40-50kt tailwind in a PC12. What not believable about that?
_________________ Don Coburn Corporate Expense Reduction Specialist 2004 SR22 G2
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Post subject: Re: The definitive Piaggio P180 Avanti thread. Posted: 26 Jul 2015, 18:31 |
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Believable? Who said anything about that? Would just like to see how it's done.
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Post subject: Re: The definitive Piaggio P180 Avanti thread. Posted: 26 Jul 2015, 19:05 |
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Joined: 12/03/14 Posts: 19252 Post Likes: +23622 Company: Ciholas, Inc Location: KEHR
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Username Protected wrote: Very plausible west to east. Requires 320kts which is about a 40-50kt tailwind in a PC12. What not believable about that? The weather patterns right now make it very unlikely you can achieve an average tailwind of 50 knots on that route, particularly the second half in the doldrums of the southeast US. At FL270, the current average tailwind is 20 knots over that route. In the winter, much better chance. I could find no recent (last 6 months) IFR flight N801PB has made that matches the claim of Seattle to Atlanta non stop in 6 hours. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N801PB/historyDoing it VFR is very unlikely as that would be slower speeds, higher fuel burn, and less tailwind. Mike C.
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Post subject: Re: The definitive Piaggio P180 Avanti thread. Posted: 26 Jul 2015, 22:34 |
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Joined: 12/19/11 Posts: 3303 Post Likes: +1424 Company: Bottom Line Experts Location: KTOL - Toledo, OH
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Username Protected wrote: Have you 2 nothing else to do with your lives than have me prove you wrong again? Lol
Clearly not.
_________________ Don Coburn Corporate Expense Reduction Specialist 2004 SR22 G2
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Post subject: Re: The definitive Piaggio P180 Avanti thread. Posted: 27 Jul 2015, 11:12 |
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Joined: 12/12/10 Posts: 561 Post Likes: +138 Location: Atlanta
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So in a thread about the P180, a curious and off topic claim is made about a specific flight. Using 4th grade math for about 5 seconds (1900 divided by 6) curiosity is raised, followed by a legitimate request for information (shouldn’t make a claim in an aviation forum about an aviation feat you’ve allegedly done if you can’t buck up and back it up). Then, Mike’s post raised real doubt on this story. Now, more than a half a day later, no response, no support for a challenged story. Just juvenile sniping. We all know the old saying “if the facts are against you, attack the other side.” That doesn’t shake the truth -- just the opposite, it highlights the story’s weakness.
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Post subject: Re: The definitive Piaggio P180 Avanti thread. Posted: 28 Jul 2015, 05:13 |
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Username Protected wrote: So in a thread about the P180, a curious and off topic claim is made about a specific flight. Using 4th grade math for about 5 seconds (1900 divided by 6) curiosity is raised, followed by a legitimate request for information (shouldn’t make a claim in an aviation forum about an aviation feat you’ve allegedly done if you can’t buck up and back it up). Then, Mike’s post raised real doubt on this story. Now, more than a half a day later, no response, no support for a challenged story. Just juvenile sniping. We all know the old saying “if the facts are against you, attack the other side.” That doesn’t shake the truth -- just the opposite, it highlights the story’s weakness. I've made many posts with with pics and data of my long distance flights. You poo poo all of them. Go re-read one of the other threads. You're a dork! Get a life lol P.s. Why don't you use your real name on BT like the rest of us?
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Post subject: Re: The definitive Piaggio P180 Avanti thread. Posted: 28 Jul 2015, 09:55 |
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Joined: 12/12/10 Posts: 561 Post Likes: +138 Location: Atlanta
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Username Protected wrote: I've made many posts with with pics and data of my long distance flights. You poo poo all of them. Go re-read one of the other threads. You're a dork! Get a life lol P.s. Why don't you use your real name on BT like the rest of us?[/quote] Your bad manners are on display again. Of course, this happens frequently on BT (your vile insult of religion a recent example). The issue is not long flights generally. Nor any other long flight you may have done. It's one specific flight you claimed in black and white. The childish temper tantrums after being called out don't camouflage anything. In fact, it's pretty obvious by now the claimed flight didn't happen. Pilots call out inflated claims and tall tales in aviation, just like they do dangerous aviation practices. Count on me doing that the next time you try this. For the teen age attempts at insults spoken so far and for the infantile one you will respond to this with, those don’t deter – they bring more resolve and scrutiny.
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