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 Post subject: Cirrus SR.-20 as basic trainer
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Does anyone have experience with these aircraft and teaching someone to fly in one?

Is the gear stout enough?

Looking at some 03-02 models with recent chute repack.

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 Post subject: Re: Cirrus SR.-20 as basic trainer
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This a potential owner who would go on to fly the SR20 or you thinking a flight school?


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I know someone who bought one. Their was not an instructor available locally so he sent his instructor to a SR-22 class for a couple of days. The way I understand it the instructor had to have an endorsement to train in it. I could be wrong?


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The way I understand it the instructor had to have an endorsement to train in it.


Cirrus makes a big deal out of their CSIP (standardized instructor program) but there's no weight of regulation behind that. Insurance perhaps, but not FAA.


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Personal airplane to train my mechanic to fly.

Very capable 23 year old.

Me.....slightly capable at best instructor.


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Go to cirrus school. You'll be fine.


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You just might have to bite the bullet the first year or so insurance wise.

The Cirrus isn't necessarily the cheapest hull to insure. But the lower value will help that a lot. I would run the traps on it versus some others before you pull the trigger.

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 Post subject: Re: Cirrus SR.-20 as basic trainer
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Hmmmm....

You are the second person that warned me about the insurance. How much more are we talking if I want to solo him in a SR-20 vs. C-172 or Archer? All having a hull value about 120K?


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I bought, insured and trained for my PPL in an 2004 SR20 G2.
No problems, insurance was cheap as I recall. Used a program from Phoenix which was a pay by the hour program plus a small fixed for to cover the ground. Rate changed after I got my license.
Note: Instructor was Cirrus certified.

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It's a fine airplane to train in. A local flight school has one on the rental line at $180/hr and does full 0-to-private training in it for the person who values a nicer, later model glass cockpit aircraft.

The insurance will be high for your student, but its manageable if you're asking this question. The insurance company will care less about his capabilities, and might even rate him higher given his age. It's not going to be the 5-guys-on-a-C-172 for $700/year special though. Probably a 2-3K, but call Avemco and just ask.

The CSIP is not mandatory. To be honest, it probably would not have the greatest value until your student has his license. None the less, I do recommend regular operators of the aircraft take this training. Cirrus has been fixing their safety record, and its in your best interest to put this on your side.

If you don't plan on using the SR20 as a stepping stone to something faster, I also recommend you take a look at the diamond DA40 for this use cases. Unparalleled safety record, cheaper insurance, similar price, and good flight training suitability.


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The US Air Force Academy has a fleet of them to use in their initial flight screening program. They used to use DA-40s but switched to the SR about 3 years ago. We often see the cadets at Pueblo having breakfast on the weekends. They do not need permission to leave the campus if they are flying. Talking to them, they are very complimentary of the SR.


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