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Post subject: Re: Cessna Citation M2 Impressive runway performance  Posted: 23 Dec 2014, 21:40 |
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Pretty impressive, must have been light on fuel also.
Trow in some ice, water or xwind on the runway and see what it can do.
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Post subject: Re: Cessna Citation M2 Impressive runway performance Posted: 23 Dec 2014, 22:38 |
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Username Protected wrote: When I was at Okracoke Island this summer a Jet landed there, I think it was a Cessna of some type. That runway is under 3k I believe. I was at my airport which is 3100x60 when some guy landed in a Beechjet 400 I use some sub 3,000 foot strips. I've been in and out of Catalina in jets. Weight is a huge factor.
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Post subject: Re: Cessna Citation M2 Impressive runway performance Posted: 23 Dec 2014, 22:44 |
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Username Protected wrote: Pretty impressive, must have been light on fuel also.
Trow in some ice, water or xwind on the runway and see what it can do. Yup, that's not a place you want to be. I landed in Budapest in the Eclipse in the craziest winter storm I've ever seen. 70 degree crosswind 35 gusting 50, snow blowing over the runway making it freeze. I didn't use all 150 feet of the runway width, but ...
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Post subject: Re: Cessna Citation M2 Impressive runway performance Posted: 24 Dec 2014, 00:00 |
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Username Protected wrote: Weight is a huge factor. And temperature and elevation. Light, cool, wind, low altitude all help. Mike C.
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Post subject: Re: Cessna Citation M2 Impressive runway performance Posted: 24 Dec 2014, 06:26 |
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Username Protected wrote: but it is not light on the controls like the Baron or our Hawker. Those two aircraft are pilot spoilers..... Now that type of statement just screws my mind all up. And I would guess the Hawker probably cruises at 450 too. Man once you fly a Baron, the bar is high.
Mine too, all that money and it handles like maybe a 206?
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Post subject: Re: Cessna Citation M2 Impressive runway performance Posted: 24 Dec 2014, 09:38 |
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Username Protected wrote: Mine too, all that money and it handles like maybe a 206? One of the reviews I read said it handles like a Cessna.  Tim
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Post subject: Re: Cessna Citation M2 Impressive runway performance Posted: 26 Dec 2014, 17:16 |
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Username Protected wrote: The M2 is a hot little jet. I love it. And it should get even better with some planned improvements.
Not sure what s/n they plan to be cut in.
Is that a hot wing out there? Looks like it in the vid, but that would surprise/impress me. Wing is hot, windscreen uses bleed air, horizontal has boots on it.
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Post subject: Re: Cessna Citation M2 Impressive runway performance Posted: 26 Dec 2014, 17:32 |
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Username Protected wrote: The M2 is a hot little jet. I love it. And it should get even better with some planned improvements.
Not sure what s/n they plan to be cut in.
What is planned??
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Post subject: Re: Cessna Citation M2 Impressive runway performance Posted: 26 Dec 2014, 18:37 |
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Username Protected wrote: The M2 is a hot little jet. I love it. And it should get even better with some planned improvements.
Not sure what s/n they plan to be cut in.
What is planned??
I know one of the updates is electric glass windshield instead of bleed air. A blessing noise wise, future potential replacement cost wise, not so much.
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Post subject: Re: Cessna Citation M2 Impressive runway performance Posted: 26 Dec 2014, 22:59 |
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Username Protected wrote: The Mustang is the only current generation Citation with boots. All of the CJ series on up have hot wings. The windshield bleed air on the M2 has been a sore spot for some M2 owners. It was supposed to be an electric windshield originally, but they started production with the bleed air set up to get things going. There's been some hangups getting the electric windshield resolved for the M2. Cessna has canceled the electric windshield commitment on the M2 as not feasible. They are working out compensation for the existing M2 owners who were expecting it. Bleed air windshield heat works fine. It takes a bit more thought to manage it for the changing flight conditions. I find it is rarely necessary. I often have engine heat on, occasionally have wing heat on when I see ice on the leading edge, and rarely need windshield heat on. Ice will form on the leading edge with no accumulation on the windsheild. BTW, boots are on the elevator tail of all CJ's with hot wings. You need to remember to turn on the tail boots in addition to the engine/wing heat.
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