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 Post subject: Re: Eclipse 550 Copilot Package: FREE at NBAA 2014
PostPosted: 03 Nov 2014, 09:42 
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Eclipse should have only sold the 135 package. The dual quick done masks and the bigger tank are the only way to go. That little co-pilot mask door is stupid design, on an otherwise awesome airplane.

I heard Eclipse test pilots used to play a game in the non-quick-done mask versions. They'd challenge the copilot to a cabin air dump. See if you could get the door open and get the mask on before you passed out...

I heard... ;)



Warren

PS - of course it would be free with a purchase. They are clearing out the last of the DayJet 135 refurbs...

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 Post subject: Re: Eclipse 550 Copilot Package: FREE at NBAA 2014
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These are brand new airplanes the day jet birds became total eclipses not 550

Also the dump switch only brings the cabin to 13,000 feet max nobody's passing out at that altitude
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 Post subject: Re: Eclipse 550 Copilot Package: FREE at NBAA 2014
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Really? So these are new PZL manufactured planes? I didn't know that.

Just curious, is final assembly and paint still in Albuquerque? Wasn't Eclipse Aero using a paint company in Montana or Utah or somewhere?

All the old fraction stir welding gear is now all in Poland?


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 Post subject: Re: Eclipse 550 Copilot Package: FREE at NBAA 2014
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I think the 550s are New Old Stock airplanes left over from parts built in 2007/8. I may be totally wrong on this so confirm it. I think they are assembling the old parts into new airplanes.

Eclipses are cool regardless of the age of their bones.

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 Post subject: Re: Eclipse 550 Copilot Package: FREE at NBAA 2014
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These are brand new airplanes the day jet birds became total eclipses not 550

Also the dump switch only brings the cabin to 13,000 feet max nobody's passing out at that altitude
Andy b


Andy- Isn't it 14,000 feet?

Yes, 550s are new planes BUT at least the early 550s are being built from previously (2008) part-way assembled 500s that were left on the assembly line when the lights went out on the old company. That's not really a big deal though, as the 550s built and A/W issued with 500 gear, then that stuff is removed and the 550 'update' done after certification. That may change at some point, but last I knew that was the way it was being done.

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 Post subject: Re: Eclipse 550 Copilot Package: FREE at NBAA 2014
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We where both wrong

I checked and the dump switch makes the cabin go to 13.5k

Warren

It's been over a year since I was at ABQ but when I was there the first ground up plane was nearly ready for wings.

There still was a stir welding rig there for the fuselages and they where doing the painting there.

Hill-aero painted the early Total eclipses

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Thanks Andy, thanks T.R.,



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