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Post subject: Re: That PC12 is biiiiiiiig.  Posted: 30 Jun 2014, 16:32 |
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Username Protected wrote: I have never cruised in the 260s. I fly to the west coast tomorrow. I'll snap some pics up high.
I've posted 2 pics both of me in cruise over 270. But I'm the one who won't concede? You're flying your pc12 too slow. If that's what your job specifies then so be it. But don't be mad it me because I don't have to follow the same rules as you. Answer my questions, if you were to take the picture of you at 17.5k, in those conditions, and climb into the 20s would you be going slower? Yes or no.... Would you be burning less fuel... Yes or no...
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Post subject: Re: That PC12 is biiiiiiiig. Posted: 30 Jun 2014, 16:43 |
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Username Protected wrote: Is this what they mean by "First World Problem"?  no sir as my my good friend tells me.......'those are rich people problems'. 
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Post subject: Re: That PC12 is biiiiiiiig. Posted: 30 Jun 2014, 16:43 |
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Username Protected wrote: I have never cruised in the 260s. I fly to the west coast tomorrow. I'll snap some pics up high.
I've posted 2 pics both of me in cruise over 270. But I'm the one who won't concede? You're flying your pc12 too slow. If that's what your job specifies then so be it. But don't be mad it me because I don't have to follow the same rules as you. Answer my questions, if you were to take the picture of you at 17.5k, in those conditions, and climb into the 20s would you be going slower? Yes or no.... Would you be burning less fuel... Yes or no...
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Post subject: Re: That PC12 is biiiiiiiig. Posted: 30 Jun 2014, 16:56 |
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Username Protected wrote: The higher I climb the faster I go until I get above 270 then I can start losing speed. Maybe a couple knots. A number of factors play into this. For this reason many guys don't bother getting rvsm because the performance really drops at fl300. That said, fl300 fuel flow is 320pph. So if you have a nice tail wind up there it's worth it.
As I climb I burn a lot less fuel.
I'll post pics more tomorrow Maybe a few cabin pics too.. You know which ones 
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Post subject: Re: That PC12 is biiiiiiiig. Posted: 30 Jun 2014, 18:02 |
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Perfect I can't wait....  Just remember... 270kts any ITT below 780 and below 410lbs per hr.....
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Post subject: Re: That PC12 is biiiiiiiig. Posted: 30 Jun 2014, 19:04 |
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Username Protected wrote: Perfect I can't wait.... Just remember... 270kts any ITT below 780 and below 410lbs per hr..... Not following. What's your point? Our debate stems from you running around at 260 and calling it "normal". It's not normal. Are you on the popa forum? I am. Post how you run over there and see if anyone agrees with you.
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Post subject: Re: That PC12 is biiiiiiiig. Posted: 30 Jun 2014, 20:16 |
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Username Protected wrote: I cruise 275 and have 7 hours of duration. This is my point.... I want to see your airplane configured to do 270TAS and have a 7hr endurance.... At the same time... You'll need to be burning 386lbs hr or less... Let's see it
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Post subject: Re: That PC12 is biiiiiiiig. Posted: 30 Jun 2014, 20:52 |
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Username Protected wrote: I cruise 275 and have 7 hours of duration. This is my point.... I want to see your airplane configured to do 270TAS and have a 7hr endurance.... At the same time... You'll need to be burning 386lbs hr or less... Let's see it
Shawn how many King Air 300's do you own? Given your intensity in this debate I'm very interested to hear about your fleet and how many $2m+ airplanes you have in your hangar...
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