All of this 15 pages from cars to capital to hydrogen to delta smelt flowing from a discussion of a Cezzna on a site named "Beechtalk"! I love it!

RAS

yeah, what Tim said

I do believe the government will start taxing by mile driven. Electricity can be also be generated from dem safe nuclear plants thereby doubly taxing you.

I hate to break the news, but the Tesla ain't no toy. Overpriced in your eyes, but not a toy. Far better than any Lexus available.

I've also included the 90 second battery swap for you, just in case you start bemoaning the fact you can fill up faster than you can swap out the battery.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XdiGMIUxeY

You waving the yet?

hehe, I hate to bring this up, but a gallon of gasoline contains more hydrogen than a gallon of hydrogen... Not for nothing we're using hydrogen for rockets (where volume is not an operating constraint, but mass certainly is) and gasoline for cars.

Most of innovation is in engineering materials (both words are critical). This has been true for a while, in fact (to briefly get back to aviation, everyone understood how to make a jet engine by the end of WW2, but what of was a different question; the Soviets had spies wearing sticky shoe soles to collect metal filings off the factory floors when visiting their Brit "allies" facilties).

Everybody understands what makes a better battery: increase the surface of the two electrodes. Say, by having instead of a plate (like Mr. Volta or, oh, the ones in the Tesla), a forest of nano-wires - sort of the difference between a bald head and one full of hair. Making those nano-hairs is the tricky part.

I'm wondering why diesel isn't more prevalent in the us car fleet. I'm currently renting a diesel 4runner and it's pretty good truck, the mileage is better than a mogas car and it's smooth and powerful.

Because US manufacturers screwed it up the first time around and left a trail of myths about the engine type in their wake.

Because US manufacturers screwed it up the first time around and left a trail of myths about the engine type in their wake.

Russ,

Here is the background on Diesel prices.
http://blog.gasbuddy.com/posts/Why-dies ... 1-832.aspx

Everything I have read on diesel acceptance on the US, agrees with Florian compounded by the commercial industries resisting ultra low sulfur emissions and particulate emission controls. The result, diesel has had a reputation in the states twenty years longer then in Europe as a dirty fuel.

Tim

Yes and no. I have a diesel car, I used to run it 186 miles/day and it got 48-50mpg in that use. Now it is the nannys daily driver and sees only short-haul driving 5-10miles, still in the low 40s. When I bought it, diesel was 30c less than gas, now that it is 25-40c more (5-10%), the equation is less favorable.

Because US manufacturers screwed it up the first time around and left a trail of myths about the engine type in their wake.

It may. The current record is 2.85mil miles for a 1976 240D that ran as a taxicab in Greece.

It may. The current record is 2.85mil miles for a 1976 240D that ran as a taxicab in Greece.

Oh, they are perfect for that. So lethargic, if an accident is about to happen, you are probably not there yet.

I put lots of miles on 200D and 250D versions, most of them had 400-800k miles on them before I got to drive them.



Barely broken in

So do we have a majority consensus that the 421 is superior to the Duke? Other than a bunch of mumbo-jumbo about battery cars and flux capacitors, that is what I'm getting after 15 pages.

No, what you have is that the 421 has a superior cabin and more baggage room. It is slower on the same fuel, does not handle as nice, and costs 3x more. That is the skinny.