How many children do you have Florian? You might be able to get the premium model.

How many children do you have Florian? You might be able to get the premium model.

I've been waiting for this announcement for awhile now... I thought I had it bad for TBMs already. This makes it even worse. I really think they have a winner here. Per mile efficiency in these birds is really quite exceptional and very difficult to beat.

I too feel strongly about losing $$ in depreciation. Even with some potential tax benefits, I about vomit when I see guys losing $250-$500k / yr in depreciation on their light jets. I couldn't look myself in the mirror knowing I was flushing $20-40K PER MONTH down the toilet in depreciation expenses. I work too hard for my $$ to do something like that. Perhaps when I work less hard for my $$ it won't bother me as badly...

However, when you look at used TBMs and used PC12's, the market clearly favors them and they are holding their value VERY well compared Mustangs, CJ's, etc. Even still, $3.71M (which likely means closer to $4M equipped) for a SETP is a big pill to swallow. Perhaps the C2's will come down in price after enough 850's and 900's hit the used market.

Nothing seems to affect the price of C2s . I believe they carry more than the 850 and use less fuel to do it (at a slightly lower speed).

I wonder how the useful load/range profile will come out in the 900. For example they added the pilot door as standard (30-50lb) and winglets usually mean weight. They may save a couple of pounds on the composite prop (what did they have before, a 4 blade metal ?).

Here's an interesting comparison of depreciation of TBM850 to Mustangs from Vref that was shared by a fellow pilot. It's obvious the market favors the TBM850 over the Mustangs. I don't have data on the PC12 but my guess is the data is even better:

And there is my point. The first guy takes a 15% whack in a year. The next guy can own for 5 years and only lose a few percent vs. new. This is almost universal unless the supply is limited. Nothing new here....

Say you had a few million. This vs an Eclipse. What would you choose? I know the eclipse is less. Impressive airplane. Pilatus still wins in the utility category.

If I had that much money, I would pick the Eclipse. Consider it a midlife crisis.

Tim

The Eclipse is in a different bracket as all of them are used at this time.

2mil to spend or available in cheap money, I would have a TBM700-C2.

That is a very screwy program with about as hazy a future as anything has had in aviation. When you consider the support, training, resale and overall ownership experience that Cessna offers, I would be much more inclined to compare to the Mustang or M2.

As it turns out, the Mustang direct cost per mile is only ~1.5X that of the TBM700 and ~1.4X compared to TBM850. It's not as bad as you'd think. You'd have to consider the mission in order to answer that question but it would be a tough call...

I love it. what's not to love about it? Faster and more efficient at what it's predecessor does. That is one of the marks of innovation and progress.

Great stuff! I was looking into a dry lease on a Mustang. Now that I've seen all of this, I feel more like I do now than I ever did (g).

Best,

Dave

The TBM 900 looks awesome, they will sell as much as they can produce.

I will be in FL next week for the US launch.
The TBM 850 had about 850 ibs useful load with full fuel and I heard the 900 will be about the same. The 5 blade composite prop is actually 14-15 ibs heavier but then they added a new carbon fiber cowling so its probably a wash.

I heard they have 5 airplane ready to deliver and 4 will do the crossing together and be in FL next week.

Wow these winglets are sexy as hell, makes me want to work harder.

How many children do you have Florian? You might be able to get the premium model.