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Post subject: Re: Boeing makes unmanned flight a reality Posted: 02 Dec 2013, 17:35 |
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Joined: 06/26/12 Posts: 2377 Post Likes: +1963 Location: Fredericksburg, VA
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Username Protected wrote: It felt like a couple approach to the ship and I didn't trust those, either. Ahhhhhhhhhhh, Mr. Vinson's Wild Ride. I've only had a Mode 1 either bolter me or scare the s@!t out of me........ I prefer to do either myself!
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Post subject: Re: Boeing makes unmanned flight a reality Posted: 02 Dec 2013, 18:31 |
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Joined: 03/11/08 Posts: 474 Post Likes: +183
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Reminds me of those F-4 propaganda films produced by McDonnell Douglas back in the sixties, a Phantom flying straight and level knocking down a similarly straight and level target just outside of visual range with a Sparrow. "Yep, the day of the dogfight is over". That kind of thinking got some good guys killed.
Now, the reality: A small, hard to see, stealthy, unmanned combat aircraft that can passively acquire, out turn, out sustain and outlast a manned fighter with minimal input from a ground based controller half a world away (and at about one third the price). The QF4s and 16s aren't very good examples of what can and will be the norm in the not too distant future. Today's manned combat aircraft are merely custodians waiting to turn the mantle of elite aerial warriors over to the next generation of weaponry. Like the french armored knights at Crecy and Agincourt who yielded to English archery and, later, to musketry.
Sad but true.
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Post subject: Re: Boeing makes unmanned flight a reality Posted: 05 Dec 2013, 19:24 |
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Joined: 07/02/13 Posts: 3158 Post Likes: +3090 Location: Stamping Ground, Ky
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Jammers are very effective against UAVs. Predator data links have issues with visible moisture (ie clouds) and have a host of other issues. Jam signals and sensors and you have an expensive cruise missile. UAVs have a host of issues that are downplayed by UAV advocates. Nice additional capability, but don't count out pilots yet. Also, does anyone think it would take less training to safely operate a drone?
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Post subject: Re: Boeing makes unmanned flight a reality Posted: 05 Dec 2013, 19:32 |
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Joined: 03/30/11 Posts: 4143 Post Likes: +2906 Location: Greenwood, MO
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Username Protected wrote: My last tour in the Navy was at Pt. Mugu in the Targets Directorate and I flew QF-4s. They came out of AZ and were ferried to Cherry Point for rework. They came out of there with the standard 48-month life - same as for any fleet aircraft.
Never flew from the console, but I did fly a number of hops as the safety pilot during practice for a drone mission. Usually no big deal until the landing. It felt like a couple approach to the ship and I didn't trust those, either. I was at Cherry Point in '93 and '94. We had a long line of "shrink-wrapped" F-4's on the old runway east of the center mat. It seemed like every other test flight came back as an emergency with hydraulic leaks. One beautiful afternoon as I was on a solo practice flight in a C-150 over the lighthouse east of Cherry Point (Point Lookout, I think), I saw an F-4 returning from the Warning Area. I yanked it around and got him in my sights at about a half-mile. He never knew how close he came to getting splashed. 
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