Saw a Cessna 172 landing on our big one, 19R, and I see a Southwest 737 pretty close behind him begin and execute a go around.

I'm thinking, "Well, that was expensive.."

So a controller prolly screwed up?

Sounds like it. Today I was told to make right 360.wjen I was being vectored onto final. I asked how tight and he said up to you, so being vfr I turned pretty steep. Sounded like he just need some amount of spacing.

Much easier for me to do 369 than a 737 though.

Brock,

What is a 369?

Tim

Brock,

What is a 369?

Tim

Ah . . . a 360 plus a little maybe?

No way to know without hearing the tape. Possible the 737 called the traffic in sight and was told to follow it and screwed it up.

Daisy chain?

The fuel cost of each such flight (2008 prices) on a 737-800 is about $8,500. And that is just fuel cost!

A 369?

It's a truthful pilot who overshoots a 360, or someone who can't type on an ipad. I

hope I'm the guy who can't type

I think I'm the pilot who overshoots.

Say the airline pays $4.50/gal, which would be incredibly high for an airline to pay, that's 1888.88 gallons of Jet A. That translates to 12,750 lbs. At cruise the 737 burns a little over 5000 lbs/hr. So that's over two flight hours of gas. So that's not even a close answer.

Googling about, the variable cost looks like 7000-9000 an hour. The go around will use a bit more gas but it is a short climb and they are probably light. I would guess it is a $1600 maneuver.

I have landed at larger airports and had a 737 holding for me. Figure 3 extra minutes of fuel burn but it is at idle so I am guessing it only a $200 hold for them

About 1000-1500 lbs for a go around on a 737.

Anything less & they got you back around the pattern really quickly.......VMC vs IMC, length of the final, etc.

Say the airline pays $4.50/gal, which would be incredibly high for an airline to pay, that's 1888.88 gallons of Jet A. That translates to 12,750 lbs. At cruise the 737 burns a little over 5000 lbs/hr. So that's over two flight hours of gas. So that's not even a close answer.

I have been told to make a 90 degree right turn when close in on final. After 5 miles, I asked if I could come back. They said yes since the smoker behind me had landed. I told him I would send him my next fuel bill. No response. I have also been told to make a 360 so a King Air could get by me. When asked about it, I was told he had "priority" because he was IFR. The tower chief and I had a conversation about that.

We have a contract tower, and the "boss", the airport manager, told them to give priority to commercial stuff at the expense of private aircraft. I think that one of our local attorney pilots had a discussion with the airport board, and I haven't had a problem in a few years.

Interesting. In 15 years of flying at Cedar Rapids (Class C airspace, KCID), I don't remember every seeing or hearing anything like this.

- Martin