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WOT at 9500 feet & 2500 RPM ROP indicated 165 KTAS, (or 15 KTAS shy of VNE), 197 KTAS or 226 MPH TAS.



First thing to do is get a shop to check the pitot static system and related plumbing, no Bonanza without a turbo is doing 197 knots true at any altitude.

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Awesome.... congrats!

Just curious- Did the gentleman elaborate on why he doesn’t “believe in LOP ops”?

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OK Fellas, so here goes:
I had the Pitot Static system checked & certified before the flight, as the flight was on a ferry permit; so Pitot Static had to be checked in order to get a ferry permit.

That being said, could the airspeed indicator be bad/wrong? Sure, no question, and maybe it is....for the moment, I'm reporting the news....I was also pleasantly surprised; that being said, anything over 170 KTAS is awfully fast (to me).... :shrug:

So let's have a contest, we'll call it "how fast IS Chris' C-35 w an IO-550B?"
I say it'll run at VNE (204 MPH) or close to it at anything under 8,000 feet
Scott Newpower says 185 KTAS.
What say you all? Keeping in mind Scott's S-35 weighs 20 pounds less than my C-35 does (for the moment, my plane goes on a diet tomorrow...things like old Lorans & DME's & so are will be flying out the door...) Scott is probably right on the money; then again, the people that owned my plane did a TON of work to make it slicker, almost no antennas on the outside; gap & flap & aileron seals, they removed the airscoop on the top of the fuselage, no step to get into it; and balance wise, it's VERY well done, amazing to look at these old oxidized painted wings & think they're SO well balanced. The plane flies, well; great. :cheers:

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Congratulations on getting it home. Ellie looks skeptical, did you take her for a ride? Sorry we didn’t get to meet up in Burbank. Enjoy the rocket and good luck with all the projects you have planned for it.


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Chris, no doubt you have a light, slick screemer there. :thumbup: But I agree with Scott’s doubts about the accuracy of the pitot static system. But my concerns are from your earlier post that at 10-11” MP pressure and 500fpm descent was 165-175 mph.
That just seems at least 20mph too fast, that prop should be like a big brake at that MP.
At that low power setting it shouldn’t matter how slick the airframe is, the brakes are basically on.
How did it match up to what the GPS was showing?

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Meh, she's 15 & skeptical of most things....she goes for a ride on Saturday!

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Sorry we didn’t get to meet up in Burbank.

Me too Tom, but I decided that with Silvia passing & all I wasn't feeling right at all about getting in & flying any plane for 800 miles; so better to have someone else fly it for me.

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Enjoy the rocket and good luck with all the projects you have planned for it.

Thanks my Friend, and I'm going to need all the luck I can find, some nitwit planned a HUGE bunch of add ons for this plane, I have no idea what this guy was thinking; or how he'd have the time to get it all done.... :coffee:

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Only GPS I had in the plane was the one on my phone, and it's a given that there can be an issue w the static pitot system, we'll see for sure when the Aspen goes in.... :D

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OK Fellas, so here goes:
I had the Pitot Static system checked & certified before the flight, as the flight was on a ferry permit; so Pitot Static had to be checked in order to get a ferry permit.

That being said, could the airspeed indicator be bad/wrong? Sure, no question, and maybe it is....for the moment, I'm reporting the news....I was also pleasantly surprised; that being said, anything over 170 KTAS is awfully fast (to me).... :shrug:

So let's have a contest, we'll call it "how fast IS Chris' C-35 w an IO-550B?"
I say it'll run at VNE (204 MPH) or close to it at anything under 8,000 feet
Scott Newpower says 185 KTAS.
What say you all? Keeping in mind Scott's S-35 weighs 20 pounds less than my C-35 does (for the moment, my plane goes on a diet tomorrow...things like old Lorans & DME's & so are will be flying out the door...) Scott is probably right on the money; then again, the people that owned my plane did a TON of work to make it slicker, almost no antennas on the outside; gap & flap & aileron seals, they removed the airscoop on the top of the fuselage, no step to get into it; and balance wise, it's VERY well done, amazing to look at these old oxidized painted wings & think they're SO well balanced. The plane flies, well; great. :cheers:


I'm with Scott, 185 flat out for an IO550 powered V-tail at 8000 MSL sounds about right. FWIW, your airplane like any other normally aspirated one will fly fastest at the lowest density altitude you can find (i.e. at or below 0 MSL).

Forget about the pitot static system and ASI, the way to determine your TAS is to fly a 3 or 4 course circuit and compute the TAS using the groundspeeds and course or heading on each leg. And when you do this it's important to ensure that the air you're flying in isn't moving vertically (might be tough in the mountains).

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I'm with Scott, 185 flat out for an IO550 powered V-tail at 8000 MSL sounds about right.

I agree, that being said I haven't seen another C-35 w a 550, so not sure, but if weight vs HP is accurate....

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FWIW, your airplane like any other normally aspirated one will fly fastest at the lowest density altitude you can find (i.e. at or below 0 MSL).

Agreed but it will also run through VNE pretty easy, so my plan with this plane was to always fly high because that also gave me the ability to fly fast.

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Forget about the pitot static system and ASI, the way to determine your TAS is to fly a 3 or 4 course circuit and compute the TAS using the groundspeeds and course or heading on each leg. And when you do this it's important to ensure that the air you're flying in isn't moving vertically (might be tough in the mountains).

I hear you & agree with you Lance, just reported this because I've been working for the last (4) months to get the plane here & fly it so I posted what I saw; and Brother you won't get any backtalk from me if you think that plane won't go faster than 175 KTAS; I still feel blessed and will until all of the skin is gone from my knurled fingers when I'm doing the panel..... :coffee:

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