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I have a couple friends here whose kids are heading down the airline path. Other neighbors are airline pilots. What some majors are doing now a days is giving basically a guaranteed hire once your number comes up. So you go to work for their regional, you get a seniority number with the associated major at that time and when your number is up you move right over to the major. Last we discussed it a couple weeks ago it's no more than two years from initial hire at the regional to the major.


I find it very hard to believe that anyone (ok, maybe a couple, but very small numbers) are/is going from regional new hire to major in 2 years. There's always an exception. The people that I've heard of flowing from Piedmont & other regionals have been there 5,6,7 years or so. Again, always the exceptions, but for the vast majority, it's not going to happen that quickly.

The majors aren't that desperate...................(yet).


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 Post subject: Re: Training program for Southwest Airlines Employees?
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I find it very hard to believe that anyone (ok, maybe a couple, but very small numbers) are/is going from regional new hire to major in 2 years. There's always an exception. The people that I've heard of flowing from Piedmont & other regionals have been there 5,6,7 years or so. Again, always the exceptions, but for the vast majority, it's not going to happen that quickly.

The majors aren't that desperate...................(yet).


I'm surrounded by airline pilots up here, both working and retired. Kids now choose which regional to go work for simply because of this pass thru. I can't recall now which are the desired airlines for this. So for however long it lasts this is the golden age to get hired.

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The American Airlines owned regionals have pass through to the mother ship. Gojet has it with Spirit Airlines, I do not think Delta has one. I think United does with maybe Endevor. But not sure. Friend at GoJet doesn't think it will take long for the numbers to move.

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Just went through new hire class this spring at SWA, and have not heard of such a program. But with the new training center I'm sure it would be possible.


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The pass through programs are NOT two years from regional hire to major.

18-24 months is the typical regional FO to regional captain time.

The time to flow through to the major (AA actually) is 1) long - 8+ years and 2) highly dependent on people leaving for other airlines. The airline pilot boards have details.

Delta and United don't have guaranteed flow-through jobs


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I would direct her to the 99's or Women in Aviation. Both have scholarship opportunities and can provide a lot of mentoring and advice.

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Yeah a 4 year degree in liberal arts,women's studies and/or 17th century French Art would make for a better Pilot.


Actually, I suspect it would. It would also set her up for a role in management if she so desired.

I'm an unabashed fan of liberal arts education, so I couldn't let that shot go Frank, sorry.

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From a 20-year SWA Captain, recently retired:

There have been dozens of SWA employees that started out in other work groups who ended up in the “front office” of a SWA 737.There is a mentor program for pilots interested in a SWA career, but most pilots involved are getting close to hiring mins, such as 1000 hours PIC turbine/jet, etc. I have flown with many great pilots who came from Skywest, after a few years building time there.


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Great first post, Robert! Welcome to BeechTalk!


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