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I think STOL-ish planes like the PC12, Turbo Commanders, MU-2's etc that are semi-bush planes, have a greater future. The more egregious the highway robbery and gouging becomes at the bigger airports, the more important it will be able to go to that little uncontrolled field, just fuel up and depart/park.
That little uncontrolled field has jet fuel?


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I think STOL-ish planes like the PC12, Turbo Commanders, MU-2's etc that are semi-bush planes, have a greater future. The more egregious the highway robbery and gouging becomes at the bigger airports, the more important it will be able to go to that little uncontrolled field, just fuel up and depart/park.
That little uncontrolled field has jet fuel?


There are some, but yeah, you're right, it's a little patchy. I suppose I meant more like the "uncontrolled municipal" kind of airport. They seem to have it more often.
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Anyway, she's finally back and free from her purgatory!

Long day yesterday with a lot of last minute BS. I was rushing to get out of there end of the day, left engine didn't start because I'd bumped the igniter switch with my head in the overhead panel. Duh. Then some genius thought they might have hooked up the pressurization controller wrong...

One of the older mechanics came out with a little thimble of whiskey and said: "Drink this. Everyone's rushing now and that's when mistakes happen. It's gonna be dark soon, why not just stay in my guest room and fly her out tomorrow when everyone's well rested and everything has been double checked properly?". He was of course right. I took him up on his kind offer and went to bed early. Next morning the pressurization controllers were hooked up right and I could finally fire her up and leave.

Flew back to LA in 1hr 20min with a good GS of 260kts at 15000ft. Everything worked fine except for the:

1. Known problems of pressurization. Still only doing 2.5psi, but I now have a pretty good idea where those leaks are. What a waste of time all of this has been. That was the main reason she was up there in the first place! :hammer:

2. A/P does uncommanded climb no matter where the command bars are. No idea why. Something for avionics shop to deal with.

3. Can't get the HSI to work, no matter what I do. Had to fly on backup.

4. IFD540 cut out on transmission immediately again, so the previous idea that the generator that went offline and the low voltage did it, wasn't actually the problem. It's something with the unit. I take her to avionics shop on Mon.

After landing had opportunity to test my AC Air T1.5 tug for the first time to get her back in the hangar. Love this little thing - very powerful. So glad I got the Lazy Susan model, or otherwise it wouldn't have worked. Did fine over the hangar door tracks, too. But holy moly is it a tight fit... I'd measured it many times, but today I didn't think she'd fit. Got about 3" of space! It's a hangar rash waiting to happen, though.

Despite all the stuff still needed to get done and weighing on my mind and wallet, it felt great to be flying her again. She really flies nice. Beautiful smooth day, too. Even the landings were OK. :thumbup:


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Great patience and great results, I am sure you will get those gremlins cleared pronto.

Regarding the tight hangar,,, I screwed up recently on a tight hangar :hammer: and had some minor hangar rash...

Now so I can see well is all the trailing edges have these bright tennis balls so I can see what the heck I am doing... Just go slow and avoid putting in the barn solo...

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The other thing to focus on is trying to afford it "emotionally."


I had a choice, fly 50 miles as the crow flies to meeting at an airport in the Aerostar, or drive two hours in a car. Because of the climb over the mountain ridge, I estimated about 20 gallons each way in the Aerostar and about 20 minutes from wheels up to wheels down.

I then compared 40 gallons of gas at $6 to 4 gallons in the car at $3 and I knew I had to sell the Aerostar. I listed it for sale within the month. After 300 hours in a little over 18 months I still could not "emotionally" get used to fuel flows I knew I would eventually make a poor choice if I kept it....

This is what killed the turbine lust for me at the same time.

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Adam,

Awesome! Great to hear you have her back in the air.

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Congrats Adam! It must feel great to have her home in your hangar so you can go out and play around with her whenever you want.


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Congrats Adam! It must feel great to have her home in your hangar so you can go out and play around with her whenever you want.


Fondle her! :thumbup:

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After landing had opportunity to test my AC Air T1.5 tug for the first time to get her back in the hangar.


Wow... that's a tight fit!! :thumbup:

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Have you considered bolting down L tracks of steel to keep your bird safe in that tight hangar?

Glad to see all have her home!

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Have you considered bolting down L tracks of steel to keep your bird safe in that tight hangar?

Glad to see all have her home!


Yep! It's on the list, for sure! Or if there are some sort of high chocks you can somehow bolt into the concrete?

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I must have missed it, Adam, but what airport are you based at in SoCal?

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I must have missed it, Adam, but what airport are you based at in SoCal?


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I took him up on his kind offer and went to bed early

That was really smart, IMO.

I have a similar situation with my hangar. My tail is about 5" from the back wall of the hangar. You might try these. I installed them and they pretty much guarantee I cannot push it too far back.

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I took him up on his kind offer and went to bed early

That was really smart, IMO.

I have a similar situation with my hangar. My tail is about 5" from the back wall of the hangar. You might try these. I installed them and they pretty much guarantee I cannot push it too far back.

https://www.uline.com/Product/Detail/H- ... lsrc=aw.ds


That’s exactly what I lagged down in my hangar. Works great. I have about 1” total clearance front of nose to back of tip clearance in my hangar.


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