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 Post subject: Any Bo drivers ever fly a Cessna TTX
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My aircraft mission may be changing and I am considering a TTX. Just wondered if any guys here have flown one?

If so, kindly provide your take on pros/cons.

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 Post subject: Re: Any Bo drivers ever fly a Cessna TTX
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I researched these before I bought my Bonanza. With tips your Bonanza will have better range than the TTX which "only" holds 102 gallons. Also, I believe they burn about 18 gph compared to 17 gph with a TN Bonanza (TNIO-550).

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 Post subject: Re: Any Bo drivers ever fly a Cessna TTX
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I flew the TTX predecessor, the Cessna 400. I absolutely fell in love with it. It is my favorite of the late model pistons to fly. It felt more like a lightweight turbine, was very responsive, solid in turbulence, and was a little rocket. I loved the speed brakes. Hit the button, and you get another 1000' feet per minute. Smooth and easy to get down without over speed.

I ended up with a G36. Cessna deliveries were backed up then, and Beech hit me with a right-now deal. I also fly around a lot of water and soft, muddy fields. I had a concern about a flip from fixed gear after a power failure. Retractable gear made me more comfortable.

The day I tested a G36, there was a 400 sitting right next to the Bonanza on the ramp. Similar price points, but the Bonanza looked like a lot more airplane, so I bought one. I would probably be more open today.

The TTX has a lot of awesome improvements. I suspect the turbo setup is a big improvement over the original setup. The old system was eating cylinders every 400 hours if you used the factory settings. Continental went thru a learning curve. You should look at the SR22T (post 2010-ish) outcomes for cylinder longevity with the factory turbo to see if you are comfortable.

Otherwise, the TTX is a spectacular choice!

FYI.....most of my posts were made before BT added "likes" to the menu. I could use a few if you have one to spare! :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Any Bo drivers ever fly a Cessna TTX
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If I had $870k to spend, and had that mission, it would be the Piston Evolution..maybe one day

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 Post subject: Re: Any Bo drivers ever fly a Cessna TTX
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 Post subject: Re: Any Bo drivers ever fly a Cessna TTX
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Quote:Fly's Faster, higher and greater range
G2000 w/touchscreen
G700AP w/ESP
FIKI/Speed Brakes[/quote]

Mark,
How fast is your G36 at 17k?
TTX should be around 200KTAS at 17K LOP

The 235 knots at FL25 is 85% power ROP and still probably too high since I'm guessing this is old numbers with a stock 400 without anti ice and also no A/C and thus light.

FYI: I love my 350 and have around 1500 hours in her.
The airframe is VERY stout but so is a BO
Speed brakes are awesome (6000 fpm decent/VNE 235)

Go fly one!

I'm thinking will be difficult to justify trading in a perfectly good G36 for one so you may have
to add some rationalization and then throw in the " oh heck, I'm stimulating the economy!" :pilot:

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 Post subject: Re: Any Bo drivers ever fly a Cessna TTX
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Love the 400. With that said, I would probably opt for the Cirrus Turbo with FIKI over the TT. IMO, the de-ice is better and if I am going to have a fixed gear plastic plane with a high strung engine I want the parachute.

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Sounds like acclaim type s might be good


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 Post subject: Re: Any Bo drivers ever fly a Cessna TTX
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I have flown the Lancair Columbia 400TT and absolutely love it! IMHO the best single engine airplane built.

Pros- It is smooth, solid, excellent IFR platform.
It is great looking, fast, comfortable.

Cons- It is HEAVY! The airplane weighs about #2600 this is a result of the FAA being paranoid and Lance's decision to certify it in the Utility category.
Elevator authority runs out if you land at books speeds (unless Cessna fixed that) the solution is to land 5 kts fast.

Just a note, the 400 is more firm on the controls by quite a bit as compared to the Cirrus. The Cirrus is more nimble and fun to fly low and slow... the 400 is more fun to travel in and feels more stable.

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 Post subject: Re: Any Bo drivers ever fly a Cessna TTX
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IMO, the de-ice is better and if I am going to have a fixed gear plastic plane with a high strung engine I want the parachute.


This........I'm still absolutely baffled as to why they do not not add a chute to that airplane :scratch:

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 Post subject: Re: Any Bo drivers ever fly a Cessna TTX
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If you want to fly one with an extremely experienced instructor, take Field Morey's Corvalis TTx discovery flight - 3 days, 15 hours in his 2015 TTx. I just flew it down the west coast and I loved it. Here's the website:
http://ifrwest.com/index.php/cessna-cor ... ery-flight


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If you want to fly one with an extremely experienced instructor, take Field Morey's Corvalis TTx discovery flight - 3 days, 15 hours in his 2015 TTx. I just flew it down the west coast and I loved it. Here's the website:
http://ifrwest.com/index.php/cessna-cor ... ery-flight


Chris,

What an awesome tip. Introductory trips, flights to Alaska. From 3 to 5 day sessions. What a great way to do a pre-buy assessment before jumping in. Plus an IPC and BFR in the process. Sounds great!

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I flew the TTX predecessor, the Cessna 400. I absolutely fell in love with it. It is my favorite of the late model pistons to fly. It felt more like a lightweight turbine, was very responsive, solid in turbulence, and was a little rocket. I loved the speed brakes. Hit the button, and you get another 1000' feet per minute. Smooth and easy to get down without over speed.

I ended up with a G36. Cessna deliveries were backed up then, and Beech hit me with a right-now deal. I also fly around a lot of water and soft, muddy fields. I had a concern about a flip from fixed gear after a power failure. Retractable gear made me more comfortable.

The day I tested a G36, there was a 400 sitting right next to the Bonanza on the ramp. Similar price points, but the Bonanza looked like a lot more airplane, so I bought one. I would probably be more open today.

The TTX has a lot of awesome improvements. I suspect the turbo setup is a big improvement over the original setup. The old system was eating cylinders every 400 hours if you used the factory settings. Continental went thru a learning curve. You should look at the SR22T (post 2010-ish) outcomes for cylinder longevity with the factory turbo to see if you are comfortable.

Otherwise, the TTX is a spectacular choice!

FYI.....most of my posts were made before BT added "likes" to the menu. I could use a few if you have one to spare! :lol:


Rick,

Loved your post. But a little miffed. I've had to work hard for every +1 I've gotten. :bang: :bang: :bang: All you did was ask for them and look what happened. *one of them is from me :D "

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