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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 29 Jun 2018, 14:04 |
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Username Protected wrote: Priceless Oh, there's a price. It's just nice when someone else is paying it. :-) Mike C.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 29 Jun 2018, 14:21 |
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Joined: 12/16/09 Posts: 7087 Post Likes: +1956 Location: Houston, TX
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Username Protected wrote: 7 legs Ksaw - kmkc Kmkc-Kict Kict-Kmkc Kmkc-kdal Kdal-klwc Klwc-koma Koma-Ksaw
9 hours flight time 36 hours elapsed time 2 rounds of golf 3 critical business meetings Trip to casino / hang with a KU cheerleader
SIC sign off
Priceless pics or it didn't happen
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 29 Jun 2018, 14:55 |
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Joined: 05/29/13 Posts: 13578 Post Likes: +10962 Company: Easy Ice, LLC Location: Marquette, Michigan; Scottsdale, AZ, Telluride
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Username Protected wrote: Priceless Oh, there's a price. It's just nice when someone else is paying it. :-) Mike C.
Ya. No extra charge doesn’t quite have same ring to it.
_________________ Mark Hangen Deputy Minister of Ice (aka FlyingIceperson) Power of the Turbine "Jet Elite"
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 29 Jun 2018, 18:31 |
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Joined: 02/22/11 Posts: 1243 Post Likes: +707 Company: LOCO Aviation, LLC Location: KMRH Beaufort, NC
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If all goes well tomorrow I’ll be able to operate my own gear and flaps. Wish me luck!
_________________ “Jet Elite” Thanks MH!
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 01 Jul 2018, 10:39 |
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Joined: 05/29/13 Posts: 13578 Post Likes: +10962 Company: Easy Ice, LLC Location: Marquette, Michigan; Scottsdale, AZ, Telluride
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Username Protected wrote: If all goes well tomorrow I’ll be able to operate my own gear and flaps. Wish me luck! and?????
_________________ Mark Hangen Deputy Minister of Ice (aka FlyingIceperson) Power of the Turbine "Jet Elite"
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 01 Jul 2018, 10:59 |
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Joined: 04/20/09 Posts: 673 Post Likes: +187 Location: KMMU / Morristown, NJ
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Just now coming up for air after an unbelievable few days with the Citation Whisperer himself - Mark Hangen.... Short back story on how all of this came together - I've been following Mark's journey over the past 12mos with great interest as I hope to be able to make a similar upgrade in the near future. When a nice opening in my work schedule presented itself, I reached out to Mark to see if he wouldn't mind me riding along on his next trip and BOOM, it was done. (side note: THIS is what makes BT great - We have some amazing people on this forum who are willing to help, share, answer, ect at the drop of a hat...pretty special) So on to the best part...the flying! After flying my P-Baron out to meet Mark in KSAW on Tuesday, we quickly jumped in his 310 (Beautiful airplane BTW) and went to pick up the jet. Once in the Citation, my brain was still processing how to close the door when Mark called for "gear up" and we were climbing out at 3,000 fpm. It was a short hop back to KSAW when Mark handed me the airplane and told me to land it!?!?....Here's the deal, except for a slight change in sight picture and a much heavier control feel, the Citation lands just like a P-Baron! Coming over the fence at 100kts and after a bit of floating , we were on the runway and pulling up the reversers ( by far the coolest part). The next two days were spent hitting multiple cities throughout the Midwest and South, quickly making me realize that the Citation is a true time machine! FL340 @ 365kts (N90Z is a FAST Citation II) makes 500 - 700mi legs a breeze, while the combination of drag weapons (speedbrakes, gear, flaps) allow you to fit in to any arrival pattern / crossing restriction....The HIBIL3 in to KDAL? No problem! (ex the 280kts at TRRRY) Keep 170kts to the marker in trail of a SWA 737? No problem! By the end of our 36 hour tour with 6 takeoffs and landings under my belt, I felt like I was a pro....That was until Mark greased it on back at KSAW (crazy displaced threshold shortened runway ain't no thang) and showed me I still have a lot to learn....So it's off to type school I go to take the next step.... Anyway, I know the rules - PICS or it didn't happen... Attachment: image1.jpeg Attachment: image2.jpeg Attachment: image3.jpeg Attachment: image4.jpeg Attachment: image5.jpeg Attachment: image6.jpeg Attachment: image7.jpeg Attachment: image8.jpeg
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 01 Jul 2018, 11:06 |
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Joined: 01/31/10 Posts: 13101 Post Likes: +6969
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Chris,
Piece of cake, isn’t it?!
You are officially ruined. I resisted for years but Mark doesn’t quit.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 01 Jul 2018, 11:20 |
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Joined: 04/20/09 Posts: 673 Post Likes: +187 Location: KMMU / Morristown, NJ
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Username Protected wrote: Chris, Piece of cake, isn’t it?! You are officially ruined. I resisted for years but Mark doesn’t quit. Ruined is an understatement - Anyone want to buy a nice P-Baron? Willing to trade for a CJ2!
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 01 Jul 2018, 16:56 |
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Joined: 02/22/11 Posts: 1243 Post Likes: +707 Company: LOCO Aviation, LLC Location: KMRH Beaufort, NC
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Username Protected wrote: If all goes well tomorrow I’ll be able to operate my own gear and flaps. Wish me luck! and?????
DONE! First flight today with no one else on the Airplane. It’s kind of lonely and quite at FL390. I liked it!
_________________ “Jet Elite” Thanks MH!
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 01 Jul 2018, 19:36 |
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Joined: 05/29/13 Posts: 13578 Post Likes: +10962 Company: Easy Ice, LLC Location: Marquette, Michigan; Scottsdale, AZ, Telluride
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Username Protected wrote: DONE! First flight today with no one else on the Airplane. It’s kind of lonely and quite at FL390. I liked it!
Great job. Welcome to the “Jet Elite”
_________________ Mark Hangen Deputy Minister of Ice (aka FlyingIceperson) Power of the Turbine "Jet Elite"
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 02 Jul 2018, 14:09 |
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Joined: 01/31/10 Posts: 13101 Post Likes: +6969
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Username Protected wrote: Landed Saturday in KSAW from KMCD. Mackinac Island. 25 min trip.
700 lbs according to gauges.
Both low fuel lights illuminated on taxi. Intermittently.
Top off of 670 gals or 4,556 lbs. capacity is 5008. So actually only 452 lbs aboard. Not 700.
Know your fuel gauges! Those were much closer when we landed in Salina iirc. Within 100 lbs when when actual was 808.
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