BeechTalk - BT

Username Protected · **Posted:** 21 Jan 2018, 13:56

Step 1

Username Protected · **Posted:** 21 Jan 2018, 14:02

Username Protected wrote:

Love this

sure will be nice when that is the standard procedure via text. I am with Jason, getting clearances by radio is archaic.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 21 Jan 2018, 14:07

I looked at the Jepp ORD3 departure. I didn’t realize KORD only has one SID. Makes sense though. I like how that’s put together. I’d like to see that concept applied at other airports. Also, the Jepp is now geo-referenced, which makes for a nice initial chart on the iPad.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 21 Jan 2018, 14:08

Better let ORD departure know you can’t maintain 250K in a climb.

The SID should just say “Climb fast; max forward speed to speed limit; get out of Chicago”

Username Protected · **Posted:** 21 Jan 2018, 14:08

Username Protected · **Posted:** 21 Jan 2018, 16:16

Looks like it was likely an easy hour with a landing in VFR conditions.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 21 Jan 2018, 16:26

Clint agreed easy flight. Taxiing at ORD, SP, sounds extremely stressful. Unless of course you’re MArtin P. :thumbup:

Username Protected · **Posted:** 21 Jan 2018, 17:51

Uneventful except for the nearly hour long taxi. 400 and 1. Using two runways. Expensive taxi.

VFR at KSAW.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 21 Jan 2018, 18:02

Username Protected wrote:

Uneventful except for the nearly hour long taxi. 400 and 1. Using two runways. Expensive taxi.

VFR at KSAW.

How much fuel did you burn on the ground?

Username Protected · **Posted:** 21 Jan 2018, 18:04

Username Protected wrote:

Uneventful except for the nearly hour long taxi. 400 and 1. Using two runways. Expensive taxi.

VFR at KSAW.

How much fuel did you burn on the ground?

Username Protected · **Posted:** 21 Jan 2018, 18:15

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Uneventful except for the nearly hour long taxi.

We were in there last year, had been in several times in the late 80s, always busy, but I don't remember it being so convoluted. Even the "big boys" were getting scolded for messing up. We didn't get lost, one navigating one taxiing... but had 2 handoffs on ground control before we got to the active.

Taxiing single pilot at ORD was probably tougher than the flying.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 21 Jan 2018, 19:29

Username Protected wrote:

Taxiing at ORD, SP, sounds extremely stressful.

I've flown into KORD twice, both times SP. Wasn't an issue.

KMDW is worse, IMO. Far more confusing with the closely packed runways.

Mike C.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 21 Jan 2018, 19:34

Username Protected wrote:

Taxiing at ORD, SP, sounds extremely stressful.

I've flown into KORD twice, both times SP. Wasn't an issue.

KMDW is worse, IMO. Far more confusing with the closely packed runways.

Mike C.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 21 Jan 2018, 19:41

Username Protected wrote:

Better let ORD departure know you can’t maintain 250K in a climb.

The SID should just say “Climb fast; max forward speed to speed limit; get out of Chicago”

Not really. For most jets leaving ORD, the 250 kt speed restriction comes into play above 10,000 ft. You are expected to remain at that speed until assigned "normal speed", allowing one to accelerate to the FMS calculated climb speed. It can be an overlooked restriction for those who don't fly into ORD frequently.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 21 Jan 2018, 19:50

Username Protected wrote:

Better let ORD departure know you can’t maintain 250K in a climb.

The SID should just say “Climb fast; max forward speed to speed limit; get out of Chicago”

Not really. For most jets leaving ORD, the 250 kt speed restriction comes into play above 10,000 ft. You are expected to remain at that speed until assigned "normal speed", allowing one to accelerate to the FMS calculated climb speed. It can be an overlooked restriction for those who don't fly into ORD frequently.

Flying the Citation II