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CJ2 trip next week. Weds: Sdl-aus. Thursday: aus dal. Friday dal Sdl

Who wants to fly right seat?


Would love to join you but to much of a practice/geography challenge.

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CJ2 trip next week. Weds: Sdl-aus. Thursday: aus dal. Friday dal Sdl

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What time are you doing AUS-DAL?


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CJ2 trip next week. Weds: Sdl-aus. Thursday: aus dal. Friday dal Sdl

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What time are you doing AUS-DAL?


7:30am ish.
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Shame :( I'm doing my ATP-CTP that week so I can't do that :(
I fly DAL-AUS-DAL almost every day, would've been nice to do it in a jet too.


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Mark, when you departed Ogden, did your clearance include a fix from the Wasatch VOR, like 50nm on the 296 radial? I always seem to get goofy departure clearances out of there.

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Mark, when you departed Ogden, did your clearance include a fix from the Wasatch VOR, like 50nm on the 296 radial? I always seem to get goofy departure clearances out of there.


Wasatch 193 @ 89miles. Affirm. Easy in the Garmin. Gave up on FMS.

We intercepted the radial south of TCH and shortly thereafter got a Direct FLG.DSERT2.

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Mark, when you departed Ogden, did your clearance include a fix from the Wasatch VOR, like 50nm on the 296 radial? I always seem to get goofy departure clearances out of there.


Wasatch 193 @ 89miles. Affirm. Easy in the Garmin. Gave up on FMS.

We intercepted the radial south of TCH and shortly thereafter got a Direct FLG.DSERT2.


Wouldn't the FMS accept TCH193/89 as a waypoint?

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Wasatch 193 @ 89miles. Affirm. Easy in the Garmin. Gave up on FMS.

We intercepted the radial south of TCH and shortly thereafter got a Direct FLG.DSERT2.


Wouldn't the FMS accept TCH193/89 as a waypoint?[/quote]

Have to check that. It’s such a rare event. We just used the Garmin in this case. Wasn’t worth the hassle of figuring it out to be honest.

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Wasatch 193 @ 89miles. Affirm. Easy in the Garmin. Gave up on FMS.

We intercepted the radial south of TCH and shortly thereafter got a Direct FLG.DSERT2.


Wouldn't the FMS accept TCH193/89 as a waypoint?


Have to check that. It’s such a rare event. We just used the Garmin in this case. Wasn’t worth the hassle of figuring it out to be honest.[/quote]

Ok. It sometimes is helpful with ad-hoc holds. "hold north on the 355 radial of XYZ VOR 15 DME"

Collins I think takes TCH193/89, Honeywell Apex is TCH/193/89. I'm not sure what your FMS would take.

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Actually a CJ2. John L. We flew to Ogden Utah from Scottsdale and back.


So who is to blame for not setting 1013 on the standby :eek:

Edit. OK you are on descent. I forgot your transition is so high

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Mark what’s the full fuel payload in the 2? Also someone mentioned that Jettech might have a fuel computer to work with the 750?

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Mark what’s the full fuel payload in the 2? Also someone mentioned that Jettech might have a fuel computer to work with the 750?


The CJ2 I fly has the Jettech STC and does have a fuel computer that works through the GTN 750’s. It works and I use it but if I were having to pay for it I’d probably pass on that option. I find the fuel gauges are so accurate that it becomes a simple math problem to do any fuel calculations, makes it hardly seem worth the extra $$ to have the computer.


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Mark, when you departed Ogden, did your clearance include a fix from the Wasatch VOR, like 50nm on the 296 radial? I always seem to get goofy departure clearances out of there.


Wasatch 193 @ 89miles. Affirm. Easy in the Garmin. Gave up on FMS.

We intercepted the radial south of TCH and shortly thereafter got a Direct FLG.DSERT2.

It seems they always give a radial-fix coming out of OGD. Not sure why. When I'm westbound it's always TCH 296/50. I looked at the chart and there's a waypoint there, HOGUP. I asked the controller why they didn't use HOGUP, and he said he didn't know. He just reads what's printed on the clearance. One of these days I'll figure it out.
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