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I’m surprised they put you on turbojet departures in the Citation


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 Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II
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I’m surprised they put you on turbojet departures in the Citation


Shot's fired!!! :duck: :hide: :ohno: :whistle: :coffee:



He is right. I was surprised too.
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 Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II
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Whenever I hear "delete speed restriction" I take it as I can now fly whatever speed I would like. I think that is poor phraseology to say that and then expect you to keep at least 250 kts.


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Whenever I hear "delete speed restriction" I take it as I can now fly whatever speed I would like. I think that is poor phraseology to say that and then expect you to keep at least 250 kts.


Agreed!

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As we all know, ATC cannot waive the 250 below 10,000 speed restiction to a higher speed - unless you ask for it for operational reasons (i.e. clean stall speed requires more than 250K, but that would be a stretch in a Citation).


I wonder if being Sammy Hagar is an acceptable operational reason to break 250 kias below 10K! :rock:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvV3nn_de2k

I couldn't resist, my mind when straight to I can't drive 55 when I read this post :D

Now some of us wish we could get to 250 (without a tail or wing folding) to begin with, but that is a whole other topic!


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Jeepers...I just got into a turbine and thought it was cool that I might have to watch 200 in the Class D. 250 in a climb is only a dream! :)


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Jeepers...I just got into a turbine and thought it was cool that I might have to watch 200 in the Class D. 250 in a climb is only a dream! :)


We used to routinely depart class D and exceed 200 at one place I flew the Citation. When I tried to slow once, the instructor asked what I was doing. He said, no one expects you to do that here in a jet. Just sayin :lol:
Vmo on our C90 is 208, so, not much to worry 'bout for us. I seldom exceed 190 unless it's smooth and a long descent.

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OK i can make my announcement! I am the newest type rated C550 pilot in the USA or at least on Beechtalk! I am no match for MH but i am happy and proud of my new rating. I hope and pray there is a Citation version of Tom Clements. I need all the help i can get! New rating Sunday March 18 at 1500 hours. Pick up the new ride on Thursday March 22 if everything goes well at the shop.

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OK i can make my announcement! I am the newest type rated C550 pilot in the USA or at least on Beechtalk! I am no match for MH but i am happy and proud of my new rating. I hope and pray there is a Citation version of Tom Clements. I need all the help i can get! New rating Sunday March 18 at 1500 hours. Pick up the new ride on Thursday March 22 if everything goes well at the shop.



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Nice going, Ken. Congrats!

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Hello!

Noob to the forum here, and just binged all 238 pages of this! thanks Dave and Mark for the good read. Im not sure I'm Jet Elite, but I have type ratings and that is what pays the bills. Currently flying lear 40/45/70/75's, have about 1000hrs in falcon 50/900's, and have maybe 60hrs in c550 and Ultra's. I'm pretty sure its everyone's dream to fly jets on your own schedule, so its been a fun read.

Question for Dave, how has it worked out for you? Are you still dry leasing? Any headaches to report with that arrangement? How many hours are you getting a year?

Again, thanks for all the entertainment, back to lurking....

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Welcome Joel. Be careful in jets... See MH's jet "decorations". :cheers:

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Hello!

Noob to the forum here, and just binged all 238 pages of this! thanks Dave and Mark for the good read. Im not sure I'm Jet Elite, but I have type ratings and that is what pays the bills. Currently flying lear 40/45/70/75's, have about 1000hrs in falcon 50/900's, and have maybe 60hrs in c550 and Ultra's. I'm pretty sure its everyone's dream to fly jets on your own schedule, so its been a fun read.

Question for Dave, how has it worked out for you? Are you still dry leasing? Any headaches to report with that arrangement? How many hours are you getting a year?

Again, thanks for all the entertainment, back to lurking....

Joel


Welcome Joel! Nice entrance. I will translate your intro... my name is Joel, I’ve spent most of my time in fast and really fast jets.... occasionally I’ve flown a slowtation or two.

Nice to have you!

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