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Post subject: Pipistrel Panthera  Posted: 12 Aug 2014, 17:11 |
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Has anyone seen this thing?! They're going for certification. Is that required for kits or do they intend to build and deliver certified planes? I'm curious to see how Cirrus responds. http://www.panthera-aircraft.com/technical-data
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Post subject: Re: Pipistrel Panthera Posted: 12 Aug 2014, 18:15 |
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Username Protected wrote: Has anyone seen this thing?! They're going for certification. Is that required for kits or do they intend to build and deliver certified planes? I'm curious to see how Cirrus responds. http://www.panthera-aircraft.com/technical-dataYeap... I've been following it since it was first announced. Very impressive and very real. [youtube]http://youtu.be/9e31q09AksA[/youtube]
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Post subject: Re: Pipistrel Panthera Posted: 12 Aug 2014, 20:00 |
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Last I heard they were going to offer kits while at the same time moving forward with a certified airframe. Seems to be a reasonable strategy. The 200 ktas on 10 GPH isn't going to happen- there was a news story that they've swapped out the IO390 for an IO540.
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Post subject: Re: Pipistrel Panthera Posted: 12 Aug 2014, 21:55 |
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I have been following the Panthera as well. WOW. A one turn spin recovery with 4 on board . THAT IS IMPRESSIVE.
I predict this airplane , especially with a six cylinder engine, will reset the high bar for GA singles.
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Post subject: Re: Pipistrel Panthera Posted: 13 Aug 2014, 00:29 |
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They're going for EASA certification first, to which the bilateral agreement should offer a quick way to FAA certification. FAA certification has become such a pain under FAR part 23, that it's now easier to certify with the bureaucrats in EASA-land and then get the backdoor into FAA than start from scratch with FAA. The rewrite of part 23 can't come quick enough. Plane is gonna be killer, but it was a real shame they had to drop the mogas IO-390 and go with the hi-we're-Lycoming-we-haven't-innovated-since-1946-but-we're-happy-to-sell-you-old-rope-for-the-price-of-a-house-in-the-form-of-the-no-mogas-IO-540….Certified aviation? As cutting edge as the 15th century Spanish inquisition... 
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Post subject: Re: Pipistrel Panthera Posted: 13 Aug 2014, 07:24 |
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Username Protected wrote: What is the source of the smoke/vapor coming from the wing tips during the spin? Tail view shows it well. I would guess that its the fuel vents.
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Post subject: Re: Pipistrel Panthera Posted: 13 Aug 2014, 09:58 |
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Username Protected wrote: I have been following the Panthera as well. WOW. A one turn spin recovery with 4 on board . THAT IS IMPRESSIVE.
I predict this airplane , especially with a six cylinder engine, will reset the high bar for GA singles. Aren't spins considered an aerobatic maneuver and require parachutes for the occupants? I don't see them in the video. John SR20
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Post subject: Re: Pipistrel Panthera Posted: 13 Aug 2014, 11:39 |
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Username Protected wrote: Aren't spins considered an aerobatic maneuver and require parachutes for the occupants?
I don't see them in the video.
John
SR20 Nope. Spin training is excluded from chute requirement. Plus the flight happened in Europe. They _may_ have different rules you know...
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Post subject: Re: Pipistrel Panthera Posted: 13 Aug 2014, 11:46 |
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Username Protected wrote: Nope. Spin training is excluded from chute requirement.
While that's true no way no how is that spin training.
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Username Protected wrote: They're going for EASA certification first, to which the bilateral agreement should offer a quick way to FAA certification. FAA certification has become such a pain under FAR part 23, that it's now easier to certify with the bureaucrats in EASA-land and then get the backdoor into FAA than start from scratch with FAA. The rewrite of part 23 can't come quick enough. Plane is gonna be killer, but it was a real shame they had to drop the mogas IO-390 and go with the hi-we're-Lycoming-we-haven't-innovated-since-1946-but-we're-happy-to-sell-you-old-rope-for-the-price-of-a-house-in-the-form-of-the-no-mogas-IO-540….Certified aviation? As cutting edge as the 15th century Spanish inquisition... Maybe, just maybe, they will put 7.5 pistons in that engine and make it work with mogas......
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