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Post subject: Clown Planes & lightning.... Posted: 08 Aug 2014, 12:41 |
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To those who have wondered what happens when a plastic plane meets lightning (or is it lightening(Arlen) I believe it to be a non issue. We just finished an annual on a Columbia/ Cessna 400. During perusal of the log books I noted it had an engine & prop teardown as well as an airframe inspection a few years ago following a lightning strike. By all accounts other than the teardown inspections and overhauls the airframe was fine and did in fact not explode in midair. I suppose that is a good thing. 
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Post subject: Re: Clown Planes & lightning.... Posted: 08 Aug 2014, 12:57 |
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Username Protected wrote: To those who have wondered what happens when a plastic plane meets lightning (or is it lightening(Arlen) I believe it to be a non issue. We just finished an annual on a Columbia/ Cessna 400. During perusal of the log books I noted it had an engine & prop teardown as well as an airframe inspection a few years ago following a lightning strike. By all accounts other than the teardown inspections and overhauls the airframe was fine and did in fact not explode in midair. I suppose that is a good thing.  I would NOT want to be in a plastic airplane in a lightning strike unless it has a conductive "cage" around the humans. Carbon composites might work for that, but I haven't researched it so I don't know for sure. I'm guessing that IFR certified composite aircraft have taken care of this somehow. Dan
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Post subject: Re: Clown Planes & lightning.... Posted: 08 Aug 2014, 13:12 |
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Username Protected wrote: To those who have wondered what happens when a plastic plane meets lightning (or is it lightening(Arlen) I believe it to be a non issue. We just finished an annual on a Columbia/ Cessna 400. During perusal of the log books I noted it had an engine & prop teardown as well as an airframe inspection a few years ago following a lightning strike. By all accounts other than the teardown inspections and overhauls the airframe was fine and did in fact not explode in midair. I suppose that is a good thing.  Why the engine teardown for a lightning strike? Is that specific to the 400?
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Post subject: Re: Clown Planes & lightning.... Posted: 08 Aug 2014, 13:20 |
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Username Protected wrote: To those who have wondered what happens when a plastic plane meets lightning (or is it lightening(Arlen) I believe it to be a non issue. We just finished an annual on a Columbia/ Cessna 400. During perusal of the log books I noted it had an engine & prop teardown as well as an airframe inspection a few years ago following a lightning strike. By all accounts other than the teardown inspections and overhauls the airframe was fine and did in fact not explode in midair. I suppose that is a good thing.  Why the engine teardown for a lightning strike? Is that specific to the 400?
CMI Bulletin M88-9 recommends tear down inspection on all their engines following lightning strikes.
_________________ God created Aircraft Mechanics so Pilots could have heros. I'd rather be fishing with Andy and Opie
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Post subject: Re: Clown Planes & lightning.... Posted: 08 Aug 2014, 13:25 |
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Username Protected wrote: To those who have wondered what happens when a plastic plane meets lightning (or is it lightening(Arlen) I believe it to be a non issue. We just finished an annual on a Columbia/ Cessna 400. During perusal of the log books I noted it had an engine & prop teardown as well as an airframe inspection a few years ago following a lightning strike. By all accounts other than the teardown inspections and overhauls the airframe was fine and did in fact not explode in midair. I suppose that is a good thing.  Why the engine teardown for a lightning strike? Is that specific to the 400?
Others have cited the reg/requirement.
The reason is that magnetizing the parts can create a "generator" in the engine. Magnetized parts that are moving can cause electrical current to circulate through the bearings (crossing the oil barrier(s)) making bad things happen. It is especially a problem on turbines, but also on recips.
Dan
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Post subject: Re: Clown Planes & lightning.... Posted: 08 Aug 2014, 13:28 |
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I handled a lightning strike claim on an SR22. It required a new prop (the blades looked like saw blades), an engine teardown, a substantial amount of composite work to repair small exit holes in the wings and fuselage, and a bunch of avionics repairs, followed by a test flight by a Cirrus factory pilot. It was an expensive job.
Incidentally, I asked the pilot why he didn't pull the handle. He said he had his hand on it when he suddenly flew out the other side of the cell he was in, and because the aircraft was still flying, he kept on going. When he landed and saw the damage, his knees got wobbly.
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Post subject: Re: Clown Planes & lightning.... Posted: 08 Aug 2014, 13:31 |
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Username Protected wrote: I handled a lightning strike claim on an SR22. It required a new prop (the blades looked like saw blades), an engine teardown, a substantial amount of composite work to repair small exit holes in the wings and fuselage, and a bunch of avionics repairs, followed by a test flight by a Cirrus factory pilot. It was an expensive job.
Incidentally, I asked the pilot why he didn't pull the handle. He said he had his hand on it when he suddenly flew out the other side of the cell he was in, and because the aircraft was still flying, he kept on going. When he landed and saw the damage, his knees got wobbly. Heck, I would have worried about pulling the handle in that situation, dunno what the lightning might have done to the rocket or the shroud lines/canopy. RAS
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Post subject: Re: Clown Planes & lightning.... Posted: 08 Aug 2014, 13:41 |
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Username Protected wrote: I handled a lightning strike claim on an SR22. It required a new prop (the blades looked like saw blades), an engine teardown, a substantial amount of composite work to repair small exit holes in the wings and fuselage, and a bunch of avionics repairs, followed by a test flight by a Cirrus factory pilot. It was an expensive job.
Incidentally, I asked the pilot why he didn't pull the handle. He said he had his hand on it when he suddenly flew out the other side of the cell he was in, and because the aircraft was still flying, he kept on going. When he landed and saw the damage, his knees got wobbly. Heck, I would have worried about pulling the handle in that situation, dunno what the lightning might have done to the rocket or the shroud lines/canopy. RAS
I didn't even think about that possibility
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Post subject: Re: Clown Planes & lightning.... Posted: 08 Aug 2014, 14:16 |
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Had a friend have an unknown lightning strike in a Mooney Rocket. He ended up consistently losing oil pressure the week after dodging thunderstorms. Found a scalded bearing in the engine. Teardown revealed the problem. No other issues noted.
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Post subject: Re: Clown Planes & lightning.... Posted: 08 Aug 2014, 14:55 |
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Username Protected wrote: Had a friend have an unknown lightning strike in a Mooney Rocket. He ended up consistently losing oil pressure the week after dodging thunderstorms. Found a scalded bearing in the engine. Teardown revealed the problem. No other issues noted. Proves that sometimes the engine builders do know what they're talking about. 
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Post subject: Re: Clown Planes & lightning.... Posted: 08 Aug 2014, 15:06 |
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Username Protected wrote: Others have cited the reg/requirement.
The reason is that magnetizing the parts can create a "generator" in the engine. Magnetized parts that are moving can cause electrical current to circulate through the bearings (crossing the oil barrier(s)) making bad things happen. It is especially a problem on turbines, but also on recips.
Dan Interesting, thanks.
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