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 Post subject: Lear 31A experienced guys?
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I have some questions for Lear 31a people if somebody can contact me directly?

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Resolved.
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Resolved.
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You got a Lear? correct?

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Ah, the Lear 31A, one of the best looking corporate jets ever built. Can't say that I've flown one though. :sad:


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Fortunately I have some 31a and 60 experience. The both models have some great capabilities. Someone asked me recently how the 31a performance compared to similar cabin sized Citation, which I also have experience with. If you want a 31a to have similar climb performance to a Citation, all you have to do is pull one engine to idle and shut it down. The 31a will climb as well if not better on 1 engine as the Citation on 2. The 60 will out climb the 31a. A serious performer. The downside to the 60 were the brakes. The tab data reflects this.


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^^^^I believe this. I have some time in the 20 series lears, they are phenomenal planes. Everyone thought they were fast. For the most part they were .76 airplanes, so they weren't that fast on the top end, but they were fast getting everywhere within their envelope. And of course fuel critical as soon as you started the 2nd engine. :eek:


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Friend just purchased one. Its stuffed in my hangar and I needed a quick gouge on how to connect it and tow without damaging which was easy... tow bar didn't arrive and just drove it into the hangar.

They've offered to give me a type rating, which sounds neat... but for the time and wah wah wah maybe I should just do it lol.

Frankly the Mu2 looks like a much more difficult airplane.

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So the Lear 60 might make it coast to coast? Man that 31 is awesome :drool:

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The 31a is a phenomenal airplane for point A to point B business or family missions. The only short fall is you can't load it with 8 full size people for more than about an 1:45 flight as you need to keep fuel in the "trunk" for ballast. The 31a is easy to get out of CG to the front. It is also good for a 2:45 flight if you're landing or taking off in a busy area or a 3:10 flight if you're taking off and landing in the middle of nowhere. And you need to go high to get the range out of it. FL410 - FL450

It does climb like a bandit. I have an audio clip that I couldn't attach here of me leaving BWI at 2am with no pax. Controller gave me a climb shortly after departure from 2000 to 17000. In under 2 minutes he comes back on and asks what kind of climb rate that was as I was level at 17000. :woot:

Passengers never really liked the forward potty either (it's like being on stage).

Thomas if you have the opportunity to get a type in it I say go for it. It is a blast to fly and has very simple systems.


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^^^^I believe this. I have some time in the 20 series lears, they are phenomenal planes. Everyone thought they were fast. For the most part they were .76 airplanes, so they weren't that fast on the top end, but they were fast getting everywhere within their envelope. And of course fuel critical as soon as you started the 2nd engine. :eek:


LR - 24D = .80-.82 Mach
The picture in my avatar was at FL430 on the way home from San Diego...of course we were fuel critical at takeoff...though we made that trip nonstop.

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