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Post subject: Re: Lear 31A experienced guys? Posted: 07 Aug 2014, 15:18 |
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Resolved. Thanks!! Tj ps... pics to follow 
_________________ Tom Johnson-Az/Wy AssuredPartners Aerospace Insurance Tj.Johnson@AssuredPartners.com C: 602-628-2701
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Post subject: Re: Lear 31A experienced guys? Posted: 07 Aug 2014, 23:28 |
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Joined: 12/24/09 Posts: 1158 Post Likes: +204 Company: Desert Air Inc. Location: Phoenix, AZ (KDVT)
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Username Protected wrote: Resolved. Thanks!! Tj ps... pics to follow  You got a Lear? correct? RM
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Post subject: Re: Lear 31A experienced guys? Posted: 08 Aug 2014, 16:38 |
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Joined: 04/16/10 Posts: 2037 Post Likes: +935 Location: Wisconsin
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Fortunately I have some 31a and 60 experience. The both models have some great capabilities. Someone asked me recently how the 31a performance compared to similar cabin sized Citation, which I also have experience with. If you want a 31a to have similar climb performance to a Citation, all you have to do is pull one engine to idle and shut it down. The 31a will climb as well if not better on 1 engine as the Citation on 2. The 60 will out climb the 31a. A serious performer. The downside to the 60 were the brakes. The tab data reflects this.
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Post subject: Re: Lear 31A experienced guys? Posted: 09 Aug 2014, 07:37 |
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The 31a is a phenomenal airplane for point A to point B business or family missions. The only short fall is you can't load it with 8 full size people for more than about an 1:45 flight as you need to keep fuel in the "trunk" for ballast. The 31a is easy to get out of CG to the front. It is also good for a 2:45 flight if you're landing or taking off in a busy area or a 3:10 flight if you're taking off and landing in the middle of nowhere. And you need to go high to get the range out of it. FL410 - FL450 It does climb like a bandit. I have an audio clip that I couldn't attach here of me leaving BWI at 2am with no pax. Controller gave me a climb shortly after departure from 2000 to 17000. In under 2 minutes he comes back on and asks what kind of climb rate that was as I was level at 17000. Passengers never really liked the forward potty either (it's like being on stage). Thomas if you have the opportunity to get a type in it I say go for it. It is a blast to fly and has very simple systems.
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Post subject: Re: Lear 31A experienced guys? Posted: 09 Aug 2014, 09:10 |
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Username Protected wrote: ^^^^I believe this. I have some time in the 20 series lears, they are phenomenal planes. Everyone thought they were fast. For the most part they were .76 airplanes, so they weren't that fast on the top end, but they were fast getting everywhere within their envelope. And of course fuel critical as soon as you started the 2nd engine.  LR - 24D = .80-.82 Mach The picture in my avatar was at FL430 on the way home from San Diego...of course we were fuel critical at takeoff...though we made that trip nonstop. The 31 out climbs them l
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