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Post subject: Re: Syberjet SJ30/Intriguing Airplane or not? Posted: 23 Feb 2020, 09:38 |
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Joined: 10/08/11 Posts: 4829 Post Likes: +4109 Location: Naples, FL
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Username Protected wrote: Thread bump: saw this plane in Naples yesterday. I’m in Naples. Give me a holler the next time you’re down. My wife and I saw the SJ30 on Friday. I agree, it has a unique look. Easy to mistake it for a Dassault Falcon 10. Looks fast. Weird tiny main landing gear wheels and tires. Yes, Naples is a great airport. Very professionally run.
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Post subject: Re: Syberjet SJ30/Intriguing Airplane or not? Posted: 23 Feb 2020, 10:22 |
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Joined: 08/05/11 Posts: 5303 Post Likes: +2423
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Username Protected wrote: Thread bump: saw this plane in Naples yesterday. I’m in Naples. Give me a holler the next time you’re down. My wife and I saw the SJ30 on Friday. I agree, it has a unique look. Easy to mistake it for a Dassault Falcon 10. Looks fast. Weird tiny main landing gear wheels and tires. Yes, Naples is a great airport. Very professionally run.
Crap! Forgot all about that being your home base. Next time. Naples Air was packed and professionally moving everyone. Tower was on it’s A game. Felt funny being about 30 minutes from a good lunch in KEYW.
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Post subject: Re: Syberjet SJ30/Intriguing Airplane or not? Posted: 23 Feb 2020, 21:29 |
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Joined: 05/23/08 Posts: 6059 Post Likes: +702 Location: CMB7, Ottawa, Canada
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Why more range than a CJ4 with less fuel? It as to be faster I guess. These are really small wings from what I can see. Who as all the specs?
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Post subject: Re: Syberjet SJ30/Intriguing Airplane or not? Posted: 24 Feb 2020, 11:00 |
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Joined: 08/05/11 Posts: 5303 Post Likes: +2423
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Username Protected wrote: Why more range than a CJ4 with less fuel? ? According to the guy I spoke with because it’s higher and faster. 49K service ceiling, 32 degree sweep vs 12 degree.
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Post subject: Re: Syberjet SJ30/Intriguing Airplane or not? Posted: 13 Mar 2020, 12:56 |
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Joined: 09/23/16 Posts: 31 Post Likes: +6
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Username Protected wrote: Like the Beech Starship, it was ahead of the times when it was developed over 3 decades ago. They have improved the aircraft and it has some capabilities that the Phenom 300 and Latitude lack and a potentially better price point. However, for stability, Cessna, Embrarer, and Gulfstream are hard to beat. It would be interesting to see one of those nifty computer generated comparison sheets showing the CJ4 or Latitude, the G150, the Phenom 300, and the SJ-30i.
We had plenty of hard working West Virginians that were more than happy to build this aircraft 2 decades ago. By then it had already been through the hands of Gulfstream, Jafee Group, and Lockheed brokered a deal to have it built in Martinsburg. However, they would only build a few airframes before the company would run into trouble again and be sold again.
Hopefully they will take off this time but it is hard to beat the marketing machines of Cessna, Gulfstream, and Embrarer. I think Gulfstream should buy this company. It would round out their product line from owner/flown, super midsize, to Ultra long range. Gulfstream would make some updates and refine it making it even better and along with their outstanding global support it seems like it would be a good compliment to them portfolio. They could probably get it for an attractive price considering their financial turmoil overr the years.
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Post subject: Re: Syberjet SJ30/Intriguing Airplane or not? Posted: 13 Mar 2020, 13:06 |
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Joined: 12/17/13 Posts: 6322 Post Likes: +5519 Location: Hollywood, Los Angeles, CA
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Username Protected wrote: I think Gulfstream should buy this company. It would round out their product line from owner/flown, super midsize, to Ultra long range. Gulfstream would make some updates and refine it making it even better and along with their outstanding global support it seems like it would be a good compliment to them portfolio. They could probably get it for an attractive price considering their financial turmoil overr the years.
Probably would be a good fit. But out the window would go the affordability of it. I was crawling around a G550 at a maintenance facility about 2 years ago with a mechanic, and he went "guess how much the brakes are?", "guess how much a static wick is?", "guess how much an aileron is?" etc until I was in utter shock. Everything on these are priced like Rolls-Royces. Think the brakes were $250K alone, if I recall correctly.
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Post subject: Re: Syberjet SJ30/Intriguing Airplane or not? Posted: 13 Jun 2020, 11:20 |
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Joined: 04/26/13 Posts: 19760 Post Likes: +19429 Location: Columbus , IN (KBAK)
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Username Protected wrote: Took too long to develop and the cabin size is a deal breaker for too many prospects. From the video it looks to be about the same size as a 20 series Lear, which is to say "small". The little Lears were plenty comfortable in the back, but I don't know how this cabin size/price compares to other jets already on the market.
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Post subject: Re: Syberjet SJ30/Intriguing Airplane or not? Posted: 13 Jun 2020, 18:20 |
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At that price and considering the competition, no potty = no sale. That’s almost unimaginable for me in an airplane of this type.
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