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 Post subject: TBM performance when "hot"
PostPosted: 11 Jul 2014, 16:08 
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So, I've been poking around at possible long-term upgrade airplanes, and was looking at the TBM.

On one particular site: http://www.newavex.com/performance.htm, they have some performance data, and it seems incredible. And by "incredible", I mean "not at all believable".

Click on that link, then click the takeoff performance bullet. The ISA day, sea-level performance seems pretty reasonable. The ISA+10 numbers are horrible. I couldn't fly a max gross TBM850 out of a sea-level 4000' strip with a 50-foot obstacle on a day where it was 77*F on the ramp?

I've never flown a turbine (other than in the sim at the 737 ATOP school), but are turbines that temperature sensitive?


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Not that bad in my experience, but the bulk of my time is in ridiculously overpowered military Turboprops.

Like 12,000 hp for 50k gross.

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I agree those numbers seem off. The 850 is limited to 700hp for takeoff so it should have an enormous temp reserve.


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These numbers are wrong.
I takeoff all the time at max gross from my 3400' runway at any temperature.
C2 and 850 have the same takeoff performance.
ISA+10 gives me 2165 gr and 3020 to clear 50' obstacle.
You would never be temperature limited on takeoff.
I wait till airborn to put bleed on. That keeps temps down will taxiing.


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