banner
banner

04 May 2025, 18:31 [ UTC - 5; DST ]


Garmin International (Banner)



Reply to topic  [ 25 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next
Username Protected Message
 Post subject: Waco Air-to-Air Shots...
PostPosted: 18 Jul 2013, 23:32 
Offline


User avatar
 Profile




Joined: 12/13/07
Posts: 2641
Post Likes: +2891
Location: DFW, TX (KGKY)
Aircraft: B55, PT-17, J3, SNJ
Went out last Saturday in the Waco and did some air-to-air photography work with Glenn Watson at Machpointone Aviation. I know I'm a bit biased, but I thought the pics turned out great...and the formation work was fun as well. Highly recommend Glenn for you Texas guys - he does great work and is really easy to work with - even for a newbie to air-to-air photography like me.

Enjoy!


Please login or Register for a free account via the link in the red bar above to download files.


Top

 Post subject: Re: Waco Air-to-Air Shots...
PostPosted: 18 Jul 2013, 23:49 
Offline


User avatar
 Profile




Joined: 01/24/08
Posts: 1127
Post Likes: +480
Location: Austin, TX (KGTU)
Aircraft: Baron E55 Pitts S-1S
Nice shots CK. Glenn's a lot of fun to work with. It looks like you're doing pretty good with the formation flying!

_________________
Sorry if I repeat what's already been said, I never read all the posts
Jack Stovall
BE55E


Top

 Post subject: Re: Waco Air-to-Air Shots...
PostPosted: 18 Jul 2013, 23:53 
Offline


User avatar
 WWW  Profile




Joined: 12/16/09
Posts: 7209
Post Likes: +2091
Location: Houston, TX
Aircraft: BE-TBD
Stunning photos. Drooling
Way too cool

_________________
AI generated post. Any misrepresentation, inaccuracies or omissions not attributable to member.


Top

 Post subject: Re: Waco Air-to-Air Shots...
PostPosted: 18 Jul 2013, 23:55 
Offline


User avatar
 Profile




Joined: 12/13/07
Posts: 2641
Post Likes: +2891
Location: DFW, TX (KGKY)
Aircraft: B55, PT-17, J3, SNJ
I really enjoyed it, Jack. Wish I had more opportunities to practice. The stationkeeping was OK, but I was challenged a bit by the 'poses'...slips in formation etc. I kept either falling behind in the slip or tailing out and away or behind and across the camera ship. Then it was a goat rodeo to straighten up, catch up, and set the shot up again. I was pretty tired after an hour or so of work - but the good kind of tired, right?


Top

 Post subject: Re: Waco Air-to-Air Shots...
PostPosted: 19 Jul 2013, 07:45 
Online


User avatar
 Profile




Joined: 06/02/10
Posts: 13386
Post Likes: +2337
Company: Stratz Farms
Location: Fond du Lac, WI & Spruce Creek, FL
Aircraft: 1992 Bonanza F33A
That first photo really looks cool with the colors reflecting off the side.

_________________
Greg Stratz
Stratz Farms
ABS Past President


Top

 Post subject: Re: Waco Air-to-Air Shots...
PostPosted: 19 Jul 2013, 08:10 
Offline


User avatar
 WWW  Profile




Joined: 09/02/09
Posts: 8669
Post Likes: +9158
Company: OAA
Location: Oklahoma City - PWA/Calistoga KSTS
Aircraft: UMF3, UBF 2, P180 II
Those photos look fantastic! You need to blow the first one up and have it framed. :thumbup:


Top

 Post subject: Re: Waco Air-to-Air Shots...
PostPosted: 19 Jul 2013, 08:16 
Offline




User avatar
 Profile




Joined: 12/12/07
Posts: 10873
Post Likes: +2244
Company: MBG Properties
Location: Knoxville, TN (KDKX)
Aircraft: 1972 Bonanza V35B
Excellent camera work! :bow: :clap: :clap: :clap:

Beautiful plane. Beautiful photos.

_________________
Max Grogan

Come fly with me.

My photos: https://photos.google.com/albums


Top

 Post subject: Re: Waco Air-to-Air Shots...
PostPosted: 19 Jul 2013, 16:34 
Offline


User avatar
 Profile




Joined: 08/30/09
Posts: 2089
Post Likes: +488
Location: Fulshear, TX (X09)
Aircraft: A36 & RV8
CK Awesome photos! Glenn is an excellent photographer and definitely has a unique gift.


Top

 Post subject: Re: Waco Air-to-Air Shots...
PostPosted: 20 Jul 2013, 10:48 
Offline



User avatar
 WWW  Profile




Joined: 09/27/09
Posts: 3155
Post Likes: +229
Company: Coats & Evans, PC
Location: The Woodlands, TX (KDWH)
Aircraft: 1989 Bonanza F33A
:clap: :clap: :clap:

_________________
Drew Coats
1989 F33A N601BT
KDWH
http://www.TexasAviationLaw.com


Top

 Post subject: Re: Waco Air-to-Air Shots...
PostPosted: 20 Jul 2013, 10:55 
Offline


User avatar
 Profile




Joined: 06/08/12
Posts: 12581
Post Likes: +5188
Company: Mayo Clinic
Location: Rochester, MN
Aircraft: Planeless in RST
:clap: :clap: :clap:
Awesome pics!
Well done!


I am glad I dont have those enlarged and framed in my office.
I would not get any work done.

_________________
BFR 8/18; IPC 8/18


Top

 Post subject: Re: Waco Air-to-Air Shots...
PostPosted: 20 Jul 2013, 11:16 
Offline




User avatar
 WWW  Profile




Joined: 06/18/12
Posts: 9243
Post Likes: +7375
Company: Gallagher Aviation LLC
Location: Cincinnati, OH (I69)
Aircraft: 1960 Bonanza M35
Awesome photos, and what an awesome Waco! What shutter speed does he use to blur the props? Does anyone know what kind of lens is best? Image stabilizing?

_________________
Sales: 833-425-5288
gallagheraviationllc@gmail.com
www.gallagheraviationllc.com - WAT Dealer


Top

 Post subject: Re: Waco Air-to-Air Shots...
PostPosted: 20 Jul 2013, 12:16 
Offline



User avatar
 Profile




Joined: 08/07/08
Posts: 1300
Post Likes: +91
Company: Retired Northrup/ Grumman/OCSD
Location: Granbury, TX (0TX1)
Aircraft: 1979 Bonanza A36
CK, they are beautiful. Sorry I missed you and Joe Sasser when you came by Pecan a few months ago. You ought to bring it over to our airshow here at Pecan Plantation on September21st.


Top

 Post subject: Re: Waco Air-to-Air Shots...
PostPosted: 20 Jul 2013, 13:09 
Offline


User avatar
 WWW  Profile




Joined: 01/23/13
Posts: 9098
Post Likes: +6861
Company: Kokotele Guitar Works
Location: Albany, NY
Aircraft: C-182RG, C-172, PA28
I agree. Those are gorgeous pictures!

Have you taken formation training?


Username Protected wrote:
Awesome photos, and what an awesome Waco! What shutter speed does he use to blur the props? Does anyone know what kind of lens is best? Image stabilizing?


I don't know for certain, but I'm a pretty serious amateur photographer so I can guess a little bit.

Shutter speeds around 1/45 will get prop blur like that, depending on how fast the prop is turning.

I'd guess the focal length was in the neighborhood of 120mm. At a focal length like that, image stabilization is helpful. The rule of thumb is that you can hand hold a lens at a shutter speed that's 1/focal length or faster. So if you're zoomed out to 120, you need a shutter speed of about 1/120s to hand hold your lens.

Of course, at 1/120s, props are pretty much stopped.


Top

 Post subject: Re: Waco Air-to-Air Shots...
PostPosted: 20 Jul 2013, 14:34 
Offline


User avatar
 Profile




Joined: 12/13/07
Posts: 2641
Post Likes: +2891
Location: DFW, TX (KGKY)
Aircraft: B55, PT-17, J3, SNJ
I'm not versed at all on the photography techniques used...Glenn is the real deal and has a great back catalogue. Check out his website.

We flew mostly northwest into a setting sun to allow the light to hit the full side of the Waco. As in all formation work, lots of briefing beforehand so no surprises in the air. All worked as plan - they dropped me off right outside of Arlington's airspace at 9pm, as requested, and we were in the hangar right at full dark. Only annoyance was the 12 knot crosswind on landing, but this is a pretty forgiving airplane and it all worked out fine.

This is a lot of fun - I highly recommend it. Not only do you stretch some as a pilot, but you get a great keepsake in the pictures!

If you're unfamiliar with formation work, Glenn has pilots who can ride with you and handle the close-in work. Now, he's banging on me to do the Baron. Hmmmmm......


Top

 Post subject: Re: Waco Air-to-Air Shots...
PostPosted: 20 Jul 2013, 16:17 
Offline


User avatar
 Profile




Joined: 07/17/08
Posts: 21796
Post Likes: +11094
Location: North Texas
Aircraft: Not in the cards
Username Protected wrote:
What shutter speed does he use to blur the props?
Shutter speeds around 1/45 will get prop blur like that, depending on how fast the prop is turning.

Let's do the math. To keep it simple, say the prop is turning 2400 RPM.

2400 RPM/60 = 40 revolutions per second

So, to get a full prop disk, you'd shoot at 1/40.

However, a two-bladed prop could look like a full disk at just less than 1/80, or 1/120 for a three-bladed chick magnet. :pilot:

BWTHDIK
_________________
-> Don
If we couldn't laugh, we would all go insane. - Jimmy Buffett


Top

Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Reply to topic  [ 25 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next



Aviation Fabricators (Bottom Banner)

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  

Terms of Service | Forum FAQ | Contact Us

BeechTalk, LLC is the quintessential Beechcraft Owners & Pilots Group providing a forum for the discussion of technical, practical, and entertaining issues relating to all Beech aircraft. These include the Bonanza (both V-tail and straight-tail models), Baron, Debonair, Duke, Twin Bonanza, King Air, Sierra, Skipper, Sport, Sundowner, Musketeer, Travel Air, Starship, Queen Air, BeechJet, and Premier lines of airplanes, turboprops, and turbojets.

BeechTalk, LLC is not affiliated or endorsed by the Beechcraft Corporation, its subsidiaries, or affiliates. Beechcraft™, King Air™, and Travel Air™ are the registered trademarks of the Beechcraft Corporation.

Copyright© BeechTalk, LLC 2007-2025

.KalAir_Black.jpg.
.pdi-85x50.jpg.
.Wentworth_85x100.JPG.
.Rocky-Mountain-Turbine-85x100.jpg.
.lucysaviation-85x50.png.
.puremedical-85x200.jpg.
.midwest2.jpg.
.blackwell-85x50.png.
.holymicro-85x50.jpg.
.boomerang-85x50-2023-12-17.png.
.bkool-85x50-2014-08-04.jpg.
.concorde.jpg.
.centex-85x50.jpg.
.KingAirMaint85_50.png.
.aerox_85x100.png.
.bullardaviation-85x50-2.jpg.
.blackhawk-85x100-2019-09-25.jpg.
.stanmusikame-85x50.jpg.
.MountainAirframe.jpg.
.tat-85x100.png.
.traceaviation-85x150.png.
.Wingman 85x50.png.
.bpt-85x50-2019-07-27.jpg.
.Latitude.jpg.
.ABS-85x100.jpg.
.daytona.jpg.
.avfab-85x50-2018-12-04.png.
.performanceaero-85x50.jpg.
.garmin-85x200-2021-11-22.jpg.
.ocraviation-85x50.png.
.SCA.jpg.
.mcfarlane-85x50.png.
.Elite-85x50.png.
.jetacq-85x50.jpg.
.shortnnumbers-85x100.png.
.wilco-85x100.png.
.sierratrax-85x50.png.
.camguard.jpg.
.jandsaviation-85x50.jpg.
.aviationdesigndouble.jpg.
.temple-85x100-2015-02-23.jpg.
.kadex-85x50.jpg.
.gallagher_85x50.jpg.
.airmart-85x150.png.
.headsetsetc_Small_85x50.jpg.
.dbm.jpg.
.tempest.jpg.
.wat-85x50.jpg.
.saint-85x50.jpg.
.planelogix-85x100-2015-04-15.jpg.
.ssv-85x50-2023-12-17.jpg.
.kingairnation-85x50.png.
.CiESVer2.jpg.
.geebee-85x50.jpg.