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 Post subject: Piper Mojave....
PostPosted: 17 Feb 2014, 16:32 
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Anyone have any first hand experience about this aircraft? Must admit, never even been on my radar but from what I can see there is a lot to like about it! Fire away....


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 Post subject: Re: Piper Mojave....
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Run!!!!! do not walk away.

It is between a Navajo and a Cheyenne.

Some Navajo parts fit, some Cheyenne parts fit.

It is not fun to work on because of like so many other Legacy Piper aircraft overall support is not good.

I don't think Piper even remembers how to spell Mojave.

Just my .02.

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Run!!!!! do not walk away.

It is between a Navajo and a Cheyenne.

Some Navajo parts fit, some Cheyenne parts fit.

It is not fun to work on because of like so many other Legacy Piper aircraft overall support is not good.

I don't think Piper even remembers how to spell Mojave.

Just my .02.



Ok that's funny. :coffee:


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 Post subject: Re: Piper Mojave....
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I used to fly one several years ago. The good news is that it is a much better airplane than a P-Navajo....

I am not as down on it as Bill, we have both Navajos and Cheyennes here, so our operation is very knowledgeable... It is not a bad airplane, but a Cessna 414 with some Ram mods is 25-30 kts faster, and hauls as much or more.

It is a less demanding airplane to fly than the 414, hauls ice much better, it is comfortable, pretty robust, but again, a 414 or 421 will kick it's but in performance...

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I used to fly one several years ago. The good news is that it is a much better airplane than a P-Navajo....

I am not as down on it as Bill, we have both Navajos and Cheyennes here, so our operation is very knowledgeable... It is not a bad airplane, but a Cessna 414 with some Ram mods is 25-30 kts faster, and hauls as much or more.

It is a less demanding airplane to fly than the 414, hauls ice much better, it is comfortable, pretty robust, but again, a 414 or 421 will kick it's but in performance...

And the maintainence costs on the engines? (that's not fair, I know the answer)


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I used to fly one several years ago. The good news is that it is a much better airplane than a P-Navajo....

I am not as down on it as Bill, we have both Navajos and Cheyennes here, so our operation is very knowledgeable... It is not a bad airplane, but a Cessna 414 with some Ram mods is 25-30 kts faster, and hauls as much or more.

It is a less demanding airplane to fly than the 414, hauls ice much better, it is comfortable, pretty robust, but again, a 414 or 421 will kick it's but in performance...


What makes it better than a P Navajo?


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Longer wings, lighter and direct drive engines.

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P-Navajo has a 7800lb MTOW (nice) but uses geared engines, screwing 425 HP from a Lyc GTIO-541. Engine's TBO is only about 1400hrs compared to the TIO-540, it's heavier & has a gearbox to include in o-haul prices.


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Better off with a Cheyenne or older KA, they are cheap enough.

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