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Post subject: Piper Meridian Posted: 30 Jul 2013, 16:07 |
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Joined: 06/23/09 Posts: 2320 Post Likes: +720 Location: KIKK......Kankakee, Illinois
Aircraft: TBM 850
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Anyone have any "real world" numbers for range, payload and speed? Specifically what is the full fuel payload?
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Post subject: Re: Piper Meridian Posted: 30 Jul 2013, 18:04 |
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Joined: 03/18/09 Posts: 1162 Post Likes: +248 Company: Elemental - Pipistrel Location: KHCR
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Username Protected wrote: Anyone have any "real world" numbers for range, payload and speed? Specifically what is the full fuel payload? Michael: I have about 150 hours in a 2001 Meridian, without the GW increase. I have ditched all the meggitt avionics and have a dual 500, dual gtn-750 and it is probably one of the more clean 2001 models around. I see generally 260-265 true and 260ish pph. Charles is right, it is not a 1000nm airplane at max cruise. I wish it were. I am looking at a larger turboprop because I would like to make 1200nm range trips without stopping. That being said, I really, really like the meridian. It is an easy airplane to fly, maintenance is quite reasonable, and it has high dispatch rates. Once you eliminate the issue of the meggitt avionics, you are golden. I choose not to do the GW increase, because it costs $60k and slows me down by about 3-4 knots. If you are looking for a bird, you must have the stec 1500 ap. I also have the pilot/co-pilot seat mod, which really is nice. THere are a lot of early birds with wrinkled wings from taking heavy turbulence at red line, so watch out for that. Have Kevin Mead do a pre-purchase inspection for you. Money well spent. Feel free to PM me with any question. -jason
_________________ -- Jason Talley Pipistrel Distributor http://www.elemental.aero
CJ2+ 7GCBC Pipsitrel Panthera
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Post subject: Re: Piper Meridian Posted: 30 Jul 2013, 18:35 |
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Joined: 05/23/08 Posts: 6063 Post Likes: +715 Location: CMB7, Ottawa, Canada
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Do like I did, skip the Meridian and buy a TBM, you wont regret it when you hit some turbulence with your family you wont have to worry about loosing your wings. I know 6 pilots that had bought Meridians and they all fly TBMs now, costs them min $5-600k to learn.
_________________ Former Baron 58 owner. Pistons engines are for tractors.
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Post subject: Re: Piper Meridian Posted: 30 Jul 2013, 18:43 |
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Joined: 11/06/10 Posts: 12191 Post Likes: +3075 Company: Looking Location: Outside Boston, or some hotel somewhere
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Username Protected wrote: Do like I did, skip the Meridian and buy a TBM, you wont regret it when you hit some turbulence with your family you wont have to worry about loosing your wings. I know 6 pilots that had bought Meridians and they all fly TBMs now, costs them min $5-600k to learn. Marc, That is two steps up. The price of entry and the price of operations are a lot more. Tim
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Post subject: Re: Piper Meridian Posted: 30 Jul 2013, 18:45 |
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Username Protected wrote: Marc,
That is two steps up. The price of entry and the price of operations are a lot more.
Tim Not if the TBM holds it's value better.
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Post subject: Re: Piper Meridian Posted: 30 Jul 2013, 18:56 |
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Username Protected wrote: 5.5 PSI cabin pressure gets a little slim at that altitude. . And why are the King Airs even less???
_________________ Education cuts, don't heal.
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Post subject: Re: Piper Meridian Posted: 30 Jul 2013, 19:04 |
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Username Protected wrote: Marc,
That is two steps up. The price of entry and the price of operations are a lot more.
Tim Not if the TBM holds it's value better.
Jason,
No matter how it holds value there is a financial cost of money. There are two aspects you allude too, one is the capital cost and the other is the depreciation cost. The difference in capital costs is enough to cover a very significantly higher depreciation ratio. I tend to doubt the delta in depreciation ratio is large enough to cover the difference in capital.
Tim
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Post subject: Re: Piper Meridian Posted: 30 Jul 2013, 21:02 |
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Username Protected wrote: I disagree. If you don't spend the money, you don't have an airplane. Doesn't matter what the money could be earning you in a different investment. Finding investments with high return is a full time job in itself. I'd rather fly. Jason, Sorry, missed the point I was making. If you borrow two million to purchase a Meridian you will have more left over to fly, invest, vacation, play the lottery, or whatever than if you spend four million buying a TBM. If you only have the budget to spend two million, the TBM would negatively impact you in other aspects of life. e.g. you could buy it but not fly it. It goes back to mission and how much value you place on the spent cash. Tim
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Post subject: Re: Piper Meridian Posted: 30 Jul 2013, 21:11 |
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Joined: 06/23/09 Posts: 2320 Post Likes: +720 Location: KIKK......Kankakee, Illinois
Aircraft: TBM 850
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In a perfect world I would love a TBM 850 with G1000. I just do not think I can swing the acquisition costs. I have also looked at KA 90's. The Meridian looks like it would handle most of my missions. Usually 500nm 3 sometimes 4 people, light luggage. Just trying to evaluate options.........
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Post subject: Re: Piper Meridian Posted: 30 Jul 2013, 21:20 |
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Joined: 06/23/09 Posts: 2320 Post Likes: +720 Location: KIKK......Kankakee, Illinois
Aircraft: TBM 850
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The TBM's in my price range are not G1000 equipped. The meridians are newer and are G1000 equipped. I know.........the G1000 should not be a deal breaker. But I must say I really love it in the G36. Especially the 700 autopilot.
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