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Post subject: Re: Flaris: Polish VLJ Posted: 19 Jun 2013, 21:24 |
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Username Protected wrote: thoughts? Sure, they are smoking something if they think they can certify anything resembling that!
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Post subject: Re: Flaris: Polish VLJ Posted: 19 Jun 2013, 22:09 |
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Joined: 04/04/12 Posts: 2382 Post Likes: +556 Location: O32 Central Cali.
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Oh boy Now we are going back to the "innovate or die" thread. Actually I think this is neat. I wish someone could bust out some cheap ? kerosene burner that will truly be the next gen aircraft. Interesting catch. Mark
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Post subject: Re: Flaris: Polish VLJ Posted: 19 Jun 2013, 22:10 |
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Joined: 05/23/08 Posts: 6059 Post Likes: +703 Location: CMB7, Ottawa, Canada
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Come on! A VLJ weighing 1450 ibs with removable wings doing 375 kts for 5 people? It better have a parachute because you will need it. My TBM weighs 4600 ibs and I dont sweat when I hit turbulence.
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Post subject: Re: Flaris: Polish VLJ Posted: 11 Feb 2016, 17:14 |
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Joined: 12/03/14 Posts: 19252 Post Likes: +23622 Company: Ciholas, Inc Location: KEHR
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Updated specs from this article: http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/ ... ms-fj33-5aSeats: 5 Takeoff: 820 ft Max cruise: 380 KTAS Stall: 62 KIAS Empty: 1543 lbs Gross: 3300 lbs Ceiling: FL280 (lowered from FL460 previously) Range: 1700nm (raise from 1250 nm previously) Price: $1.5M (2013 dollars) Chute: yes, in nose Wings: detachable, no fuel in removable panels Avionics: G600 Deice: electric Engine: FJ33-5A (same as SF50, but listed at 1700 lbf) Some derived numbers: Empty weight is 2,200 lbs less than SF50 target, or about the empty weight of an SR22. Assuming at least a 200 lb pilot, max fuel is 1557 lbs. That will run the FJ33-5A at cruise for 3 hours. No reserve, no takeoff, no climb, only cruise, to dry tanks. In 3 hours of cruise, covers only 1140 nm. But yet spec says 1700 nm. Let the laughing begin... Mike C.
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Post subject: Re: Flaris: Polish VLJ Posted: 11 Feb 2016, 17:42 |
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Joined: 11/06/13 Posts: 404 Post Likes: +247 Location: KFTW-Fort Worth Meacham
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This proves once again that paper is the greatest aircraft building material.
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Post subject: Re: Flaris: Polish VLJ Posted: 11 Feb 2016, 17:50 |
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Joined: 12/03/14 Posts: 19252 Post Likes: +23622 Company: Ciholas, Inc Location: KEHR
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Username Protected wrote: This proves once again that paper is the greatest aircraft building material. Web pages seem to work better now days. They have greatly reduced the time it takes to promote the impossible. Mike C.
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Post subject: Re: Flaris: Polish VLJ Posted: 12 Feb 2016, 00:38 |
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Joined: 12/03/14 Posts: 19252 Post Likes: +23622 Company: Ciholas, Inc Location: KEHR
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Username Protected wrote: Did anyone else notice the way the doors open? Those aren't doors, those are the direct manually operated speed brakes. Saves weight on actuators. Another feature, once activated, the airplane automatically depressurizes and the empty weight goes down by approximately the weight of two doors, plus maybe potentially one or two passengers as well. Mike C.
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