BeechTalk - BT

Username Protected · **Posted:** 21 May 2013, 08:04

Single Pilot
Certified to 45,000'
Cargo door
Externally serviced lav
1800NM range with 6 PAX
425 knot cruise on 17gph

http://www.pilatus-aircraft.com/#275

Username Protected · **Posted:** 21 May 2013, 08:10

Username Protected wrote:

425 knot cruise on 17gph

I don't see 17 GPH as being possible.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 21 May 2013, 08:10

That's super cool....hmm....Straight 35, Dear John and maybe 10k feet....not to mention the ~$8 mill I don't have to come up with :eek:

Username Protected · **Posted:** 21 May 2013, 08:12

Yup, 17gph. Awesome

Where do you see $8M?

Username Protected · **Posted:** 21 May 2013, 08:13

Fixed that for ya..... :coffee:

Username Protected wrote:

Single Pilot
Certified to 45,000'
Cargo door
Externally serviced lav
1800NM range with 6 PAX
425 knot cruise on 170gph
http://www.pilatus-aircraft.com/#275

Username Protected · **Posted:** 21 May 2013, 08:15

Obvioulsy I was kidding about 17gph. But it's not 170 either. I'm betting 120gph.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 21 May 2013, 08:17

Just a guess give or take a couple Mill......after all....who's counting?

Username Protected · **Posted:** 21 May 2013, 08:26

$9M was reported by AV News.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 21 May 2013, 08:56

Using the Pilatus website numbers, I get about 150 gph average for an entire flight. Cruise is probably close to that fuel flow. Climb would be higher, descent and holding, less. Back of a napkin figures but I'm betting in the ball park.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 21 May 2013, 08:57

Wow...

Username Protected · **Posted:** 21 May 2013, 08:57

Sounds about right. That's where the Phenom 300 is FF wise and they seem about the same size.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 21 May 2013, 08:58

much nicer than the PC-12.....I hear upgrade in someones near future. :coffee:

Username Protected · **Posted:** 21 May 2013, 09:15

That's an ultra competitive market - it won't be as meteoric as the PC12 IMHO.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 21 May 2013, 09:25

From Pilatus press release:

"The list price (price basis 2017) is approx. USD 8.9 million. First orders will be taken at EBACE 2014."

PC12 Max Payload w/ full fuel = 1,209 lbs
PC24 Max Payload w/ full fuel = 915 lbs

The projected range on the PC24 is farther than the PC12, so you could lower fuel load to some degree on the PC24 but I would guess that at the end of the day, the PC12 will win in the payload race between the two, especially considering that they are likely to get much heavier in between concept and certification.

Jets are cool but SE Turboprops are really difficult to beat for efficiency and load carrying capability.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 21 May 2013, 09:50

I'm just glad they kept the Honeywell. I've really been sweating Pilatus switching to Garmin. A move like that would decimate my planes value.

SE TP vs. Jet....... I agree

Pilatus launches their new jet.... PC24