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Post subject: Re: Mitsubishi MU-2 Posted: 29 May 2023, 22:08 |
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Joined: 09/11/09 Posts: 5307 Post Likes: +4222 Company: Looking Location: Tulsa, Ok
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Username Protected wrote: The MU-2 will follow the Lear 23 which is banned at most airports. BS. The MU2 is only banned where greenie nuts want to control your lives. Its a wonderful aircraft that is still very efficient and better built than most American airplanes of its vintage. The Lear 23 wasn't so much banned as it was dropped because of its inherent fuel ineffeciency.
See also: it converted fuel to noise at a totally inefficient ratio.........
Sorry, Mark, I had to. I loved flying the 20 series, though I never got typed.
_________________ I don't have a problem with anger, I have a problem with idiots.
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Post subject: Re: Mitsubishi MU-2 Posted: 29 May 2023, 23:50 |
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Joined: 08/09/11 Posts: 1740 Post Likes: +2062 Company: Naples Jet Center Location: KAPF KPIA
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Username Protected wrote: The MU-2 will follow the Lear 23 which is banned at most airports. Ooookay. So the most fuel efficient power plant in aviation should be banned. Says someone with real power and influence at airports and on a pilot group. Yep. We’re doomed. I get it now.
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Post subject: Re: Mitsubishi MU-2 Posted: 30 May 2023, 00:37 |
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Joined: 02/09/09 Posts: 5602 Post Likes: +2559 Location: Owosso, MI (KRNP)
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Username Protected wrote: The MU-2 will follow the Lear 23 which is banned at most airports. The MU-2 is quieter than a Bonanza once it’s wheels leave the pavement.
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Post subject: Re: Mitsubishi MU-2 Posted: 30 May 2023, 01:59 |
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Joined: 06/07/19 Posts: 218 Post Likes: +356
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I can't tell which is worse, pilots complaining about airplane noise at an airport, or master leaseholders kowtowing to such complaints instead of retorting with TPE331 volumes of laughter..
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Post subject: Re: Mitsubishi MU-2 Posted: 30 May 2023, 12:38 |
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Joined: 08/05/16 Posts: 3112 Post Likes: +2227 Company: Tack Mobile Location: KBJC
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Username Protected wrote: The problem has nothing to do with fuel efficiency or when these planes are in the air. It’s the ear splitting noise when they taxi down Hangar rows between buildings.
All the Cirrus types don’t like the racket. Me personally, I could care less. Say what? A pilot complaining about airplane noise on a taxiway? This is one of the more ridiculous things I’ve heard on Beechtalk. We have a few 70 year old jet trainers hat are very fun to watch at our airport. Should we ban them? They’re even louder. I can just see captain Karen running around an airport with a decibel meter and writing letters.
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Post subject: Re: Mitsubishi MU-2 Posted: 30 May 2023, 13:46 |
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Joined: 01/24/10 Posts: 6762 Post Likes: +4436 Location: Concord , CA (KCCR)
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Username Protected wrote: The problem has nothing to do with fuel efficiency or when these planes are in the air. It’s the ear splitting noise when they taxi down Hangar rows between buildings.
All the Cirrus types don’t like the racket. Me personally, I could care less. Say what? A pilot complaining about airplane noise on a taxiway? This is one of the more ridiculous things I’ve heard on Beechtalk. We have a few 70 year old jet trainers hat are very fun to watch at our airport. Should we ban them? They’re even louder. I can just see captain Karen running around an airport with a decibel meter and writing letters.
John , go back and read again, nobody said anything about taxiways?
It’s the ear splitting, piercing noise that MU-2’s and some Garrett’s make between hangar rows that bother the tenants.
I like 441’s and used to fly one years ago. Unfortunately some left leaning environmentalists that are Pilots complain about the noise.
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Post subject: Re: Mitsubishi MU-2 Posted: 30 May 2023, 14:04 |
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Joined: 08/05/16 Posts: 3112 Post Likes: +2227 Company: Tack Mobile Location: KBJC
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Username Protected wrote: Say what? A pilot complaining about airplane noise on a taxiway? This is one of the more ridiculous things I’ve heard on Beechtalk.
We have a few 70 year old jet trainers hat are very fun to watch at our airport. Should we ban them? They’re even louder.
I can just see captain Karen running around an airport with a decibel meter and writing letters.
John , go back and read again, nobody said anything about taxiways? It’s the ear splitting, piercing noise that MU-2’s and some Garrett’s make between hangar rows that bother the tenants. I like 441’s and used to fly one years ago. Unfortunately some left leaning environmentalists that are Pilots complain about the noise.
What would you call the pavement between a hangar row? Semantic difference. And what does political affiliation have to do with anything?
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Post subject: Re: Mitsubishi MU-2 Posted: 30 May 2023, 16:06 |
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a friend of mine has a Merlin with Garrett engines that are geared down more so the props operate a lower RPM and it is much quieter on the ramp. perhaps those could be retrofitted to make the mu2 quieter.?
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Post subject: Re: Mitsubishi MU-2 Posted: 30 May 2023, 16:11 |
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Joined: 11/08/12 Posts: 6336 Post Likes: +3818 Location: San Carlos, CA - KHWD
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Username Protected wrote: a friend of mine has a Merlin with Garrett engines that are geared down more so the props operate a lower RPM and it is much quieter on the ramp. perhaps those could be retrofitted to make the mu2 quieter.? It’s not the props that are loud on the ramp, it is the compressor that is exposed right near the front of the engine intake.
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