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Post subject: Re: Biplane Thread - Experiences, Tips, PIREPS, Pics and Vid Posted: 14 Aug 2018, 02:54 |
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Joined: 12/28/17 Posts: 773 Post Likes: +369 Company: Bellanca Aircraft Location: Washington, OK
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Username Protected wrote: Tony!
Details?? And more pics
I've wanted another Waco since I sold mine a few years ago. I've looked on and off since then but not seriously. I have really missed open cockpit flying. I talked at length with CK a while back and looked for a Stearman too, but not finding the right one I went back to looking at Waco's. I have flown, literally, around the country looking. But a friend had a friend who was going to sell this one eventually so I waited. The builder is a master craftsman who spent many years and about 9,000 hours restoring this plane. He has done several others. His work is superb. The flight controls feel like they are riding on ball bearings, the paint work is flawless and after 115 hours the engine accessory compartment looks pristine without a drop of oil. I've seen a number of planes restored by John Cournoyer, the Shue's, Rare Aircraft, Centennial and others. This gentleman's work and attention to detail is at least their equal. It is a 1934 UMF (3 originally, converted to a 5 by the factory in 1934). The UMF is the same airframe as the original YMF (the basis for the modern YMF 5 from Waco Classic) but with Continental engine instead of Jacobs. It is one of 3 on the registry and one of 2 flying. Originally owned by an English actor Brian Aherne it is finished in Aherne's original custom design and colors. I particularly like the red color on the top of the top wing and bottom of the bottom wing. And the checkerboard pattern on the tail is absolutely perfectly done. It's a completely unique design. I told the builder that it reminds me of my friend Paul McCracken who helped me buy my first two planes. His v tail had a similar scheme on the tail. Twenty six coats of hand rubbed dope. The engine is an Air Repair overhaul of a Continental W670 engine with Ham Standard ground adjustable prop. The seats are red leather finished in a style reminiscent of Connolly. The radios are contained in an original map case so you can close them off. That done, other than one antennae on the belly, and you are back to 1934. I spent several hours with the owner/builder and then told him I wanted to buy his airplane and would cherish it as a work of art. I don't think he was actually ready to sell but told me he wanted me to buy it. There was no negotiation on price. I believe we have started what I hope will be a long friendship connected together by this unique aircraft. My new friend is doing a couple of minor things before we close our transaction and I have tentatively scheduled the flight home from southern California to Oklahoma for mid October. I'll post a thread with photos and details of that adventure when it happens. For now here are a few photos: So will it be based out of Wiley Post?
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Post subject: Re: Biplane Thread - Experiences, Tips, PIREPS, Pics and Vid Posted: 14 Aug 2018, 07:46 |
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Joined: 09/02/09 Posts: 8454 Post Likes: +8428 Company: OAA Location: Oklahoma City - PWA/Calistoga KSTS
Aircraft: UMF3, UBF 2, P180 II
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Mike,
That's my current plan although I'd love to find a way to have a hangar on an airport with grass runways.
_________________ Travel Air B4000, Waco UBF2,UMF3,YMF5, UPF7,YKS 6, Fairchild 24W, Cessna 120 Never enough!
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Post subject: Re: Biplane Thread - Experiences, Tips, PIREPS, Pics and Vid Posted: 02 Sep 2018, 22:04 |
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Joined: 03/25/15 Posts: 781 Post Likes: +384 Location: Winchester, VA (KOKV)
Aircraft: 1957 Bonanza G35
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I flew my new to me S1C Pitts today took a couple of hours taxiing, a few higher speed runs on the runway . I took off and flew then went and mildly played 45 degree climbs 90 degree steep turns, some stalls then came back and after 27bounces, 2 go arounds ( or if I stutter enough. To to to touch and gos. I finally got back on terra firma,
What a fun airplane Gonna go back out tomorrow and see if I can get the bounce count to to 2 or less. I will post some pics here soon.
Have a guy rebuilding a steerman for 20 years it is absolutely beautiful, blue and yellow can’t wait to see it fly.
_________________ Some people are like Clouds, when they go away ,it’s a beautiful day!
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Post subject: Re: Biplane Thread - Experiences, Tips, PIREPS, Pics and Vid Posted: 03 Sep 2018, 22:34 |
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Joined: 12/13/07 Posts: 2610 Post Likes: +2748 Location: DFW, TX (KGKY)
Aircraft: B55, PT-17, J3, SNJ
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I hear you, brother. Sounds like when I was settling into Stearman ownership. Pick an airport where nobody knows you...ha. I read an article one time by a fellow who had a Pitts. He was out doing touch and goes one evening. When he was putting it back in the hangar a fellow, also proficient in Pitts flying, came up to him. “You know, son, these things are hard enough to land once. It is best not to tempt fate.” Truer words...
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Post subject: Re: Biplane Thread - Experiences, Tips, PIREPS, Pics and Vid Posted: 16 Sep 2018, 09:51 |
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Joined: 06/22/12 Posts: 115 Post Likes: +77 Location: Sky Haven of Aurora (KARR)
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Attachment: 9DBB4AF9-999E-40B2-BEEF-C56436D6D520.jpeg Some years ago I spent spare time one summer hopping rides in a Waco UPF7 and loved it! Didn’t have the time or money back then to own a biplane but it set the stage for me. Early this year I started shopping and decided a Stearman was the best bet for me. I met CK in Dallas and saw his fine ship and confirmed it! I just closed a deal on a really nice N2S3 Navy Stearman in Dallas. I’m in transition training now - we’re not good friends yet but I think we’re becoming closer. Hope to take it home to Illinois this week so I can give family and friends rides before the snow comes. Thanks, CK, for the coaching - hope to see you at an event somewhere!
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Post subject: Re: Biplane Thread - Experiences, Tips, PIREPS, Pics and Vid Posted: 16 Sep 2018, 10:54 |
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Joined: 01/28/13 Posts: 6053 Post Likes: +4019 Location: Indiana
Aircraft: C195, D17S, M20TN
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Username Protected wrote: Attachment: 9DBB4AF9-999E-40B2-BEEF-C56436D6D520.jpeg Some years ago I spent spare time one summer hopping rides in a Waco UPF7 and loved it! Didn’t have the time or money back then to own a biplane but it set the stage for me. Early this year I started shopping and decided a Stearman was the best bet for me. I met CK in Dallas and saw his fine ship and confirmed it! I just closed a deal on a really nice N2S3 Navy Stearman in Dallas. I’m in transition training now - we’re not good friends yet but I think we’re becoming closer. Hope to take it home to Illinois this week so I can give family and friends rides before the snow comes. Thanks, CK, for the coaching - hope to see you at an event somewhere! Awesome Coyle! Tail dragger pilots have an affliction, don’t we.
_________________ Chuck KEVV
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Post subject: Re: Biplane Thread - Experiences, Tips, PIREPS, Pics and Vid Posted: 16 Sep 2018, 11:49 |
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Joined: 06/10/18 Posts: 186 Post Likes: +82 Location: KLOU Louisville, KY
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What a nice thread! A good bit of my 50 years of flying was in Stearmans. Just a delight to fly. In my younger years I held a low level aerobatic waver. Often I’ve been asked if they are hard to fly. Tail wheel is not hard, just a little different. My advice is go get however much dual you need with a seasoned instructor until you feel comfortable. My bet is you guys that can fly a Bonanza well can easily check out in a tail wheel.
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Post subject: Re: Biplane Thread - Experiences, Tips, PIREPS, Pics and Vid Posted: 16 Sep 2018, 21:56 |
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Joined: 06/07/10 Posts: 8249 Post Likes: +7268 Location: Boise, ID (S78)
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And then there is this Waco that performed at Reno today, with a little jet assist. Attachment: F66C1658-3DA3-4770-8E36-717DD6561FA5.jpeg They call it: “Screamin Sasquatch” http://johnklattairshows.com/#ouraircraft
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Post subject: Re: Biplane Thread - Experiences, Tips, PIREPS, Pics and Vid Posted: 16 Sep 2018, 22:01 |
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Joined: 08/12/17 Posts: 95 Post Likes: +76 Location: KAMW
Aircraft: PA30, PT13/450, OPA
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Username Protected wrote: Some years ago I spent spare time one summer hopping rides in a Waco UPF7 and loved it! Didn’t have the time or money back then to own a biplane but it set the stage for me.
Early this year I started shopping and decided a Stearman was the best bet for me. I met CK in Dallas and saw his fine ship and confirmed it! I just closed a deal on a really nice N2S3 Navy Stearman in Dallas. I’m in transition training now - we’re not good friends yet but I think we’re becoming closer. Hope to take it home to Illinois this week so I can give family and friends rides before the snow comes.
Thanks, CK, for the coaching - hope to see you at an event somewhere! Coyle, I’m glad you found a good Navy bird. Hope to see you in Galesburg next year! M
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Post subject: Re: Biplane Thread - Experiences, Tips, PIREPS, Pics and Vid Posted: 17 Sep 2018, 08:04 |
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Joined: 09/02/09 Posts: 8454 Post Likes: +8428 Company: OAA Location: Oklahoma City - PWA/Calistoga KSTS
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Coyle, That's a nice looking Boeing!
_________________ Travel Air B4000, Waco UBF2,UMF3,YMF5, UPF7,YKS 6, Fairchild 24W, Cessna 120 Never enough!
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Post subject: Re: Biplane Thread - Experiences, Tips, PIREPS, Pics and Vid Posted: 18 Sep 2018, 16:48 |
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Joined: 12/30/15 Posts: 1703 Post Likes: +1728 Location: Charlotte
Aircraft: Avanti-Citabria
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Username Protected wrote: I’m in transition training now - we’re not good friends yet but I think we’re becoming closer. I like this description Coyle Stearman is on my bucket list....maybe...someday....after many many more hours in my more docile Citabria. Here’s to keeping it between the lines
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Post subject: Re: Biplane Thread - Experiences, Tips, PIREPS, Pics and Vid Posted: 18 Sep 2018, 17:08 |
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Joined: 08/12/17 Posts: 95 Post Likes: +76 Location: KAMW
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Username Protected wrote: Stearman is on my bucket list....maybe...someday....after many many more hours in my more docile Citabria. Here’s to keeping it between the lines Brad, The Stearman has some unique characteristics, but with an experienced instructor, getting checked out isn’t too bad. They’re also very straightforward to own and maintain. Don’t wait too long, or you’ll miss out on some great fun! Matthew
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Post subject: Re: Biplane Thread - Experiences, Tips, PIREPS, Pics and Vid Posted: 18 Sep 2018, 17:52 |
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Joined: 12/13/07 Posts: 2610 Post Likes: +2748 Location: DFW, TX (KGKY)
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Username Protected wrote: My Bücker Jungmann.
Find me at Hicks and we will go for a ride. Wow. I’m at Hicks quite a bit with my Stearman. I’ve always wanted to see one of those up close. I’ll holler next time I’m headed that way.
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