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 Post subject: Re: Is the VLJ dead? Better question: Is the VLJ even possible?
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That ViperJet is awesome.

How many AMU's?


I don't think anybody really knows yet; the ViperJet website has been half-finished forever.
http://viper-aircraft.com/home_f.html
If I wanted a two-seater, I think I'd be looking at jet warbirds first. Proven designs, fairly cheap and an incredible support network for the best of them.


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 Post subject: Re: Is the VLJ dead? Better question: Is the VLJ even possible?
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Starting kit price is about $541K. Finished price has to be 1 mil I'd guess. The fanjet version will burn much less fuel. Uses the P & W JT-15D that powers the Beechjet & early Cessna Citations.

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 Post subject: Re: Is the VLJ dead? Better question: Is the VLJ even possible?
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I like every part of your idea except the 2 people thing. That would never work for me.

"Under a Million$$" is a lot of money for a little bity airplane like that.


Not very effective for the "personal air taxi" ops either.

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Exactly,

There are a lot of planes out there more capable for $1 Million.


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Face it, the holy grail in GA is not going to happen.

We're screwed.



It exists.

It's called "buy used".

If they had a single engine VLJ out now, I wouldn't buy it new. I'd wait a couple years and buy one with 100 hours on it.


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Last issue of Flying Magazine had a 6 page article about J Mac McClellan flying the D-Jet. As I’ve stated before, I think the D-Jet is going to be a success in the GA market place.

Diamond has very strong financial resources as well as a solid name within general aviation.


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Exactly,

There are a lot of planes out there more capable for $1 Million.


Don't forget that Viper Jet is fully aerobatic! Worth the price of admission!

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Face it, the holy grail in GA is not going to happen.

We're screwed.



It exists.

It's called "buy used".

If they had a single engine VLJ out now, I wouldn't buy it new. I'd wait a couple years and buy one with 100 hours on it.


I'll tell you what, I used to own a Piper Cheyenne and I bought it with the engines at TBO. I did a hot section and placed it on the MORE program. It was great. I think the same is a great idea for any turbo-prop if you want to go there. I just can't see buying anything new that depreciates like an airplane (or really a car for that matter).

Buy it with high time engines, sell it with high time engines, you don't lose anything.

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