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 Post subject: Re: Augusta Pilot Parachutes from 114 Commander
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According to that website link in the BabbleTalk thread about pilots who lie about their ratings, he is a licensed pilot, albeit pretty recently - January 2010.


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 Post subject: Re: Augusta Pilot Parachutes from 114 Commander
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I'm amazed he could actually get out the door.

I had a Commander 114 for several years. When a door would pop open and I was trying to reclose it in flight, it was impossible to get the door open more than a few inches, even if I slowed way down and put in a lot of rudder. Can't imagine how he got it open enough to get out . . . with a parachute on no less. Maybe the need to get the insurance check gave him super human strength. :shrug:


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I'm amazed he could actually get out the door.

I had a Commander 114 for several years. When a door would pop open and I was trying to reclose it in flight, it was impossible to get the door open more than a few inches, even if I slowed way down and put in a lot of rudder. Can't imagine how he got it open enough to get out . . . with a parachute on no less. Maybe the need to get the insurance check gave him super human strength. :shrug:



Good point Greg, I have only jumped out of a plane without an inflight skydiving door a few times and it is HARD! The pilot had to slow way down and drop some flaps and it was still tough. I haven't heard if he is a skydiver or not but his story sounds fishy.


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I'm amazed he could actually get out the door.

I had a Commander 114 for several years. When a door would pop open and I was trying to reclose it in flight, it was impossible to get the door open more than a few inches, even if I slowed way down and put in a lot of rudder. Can't imagine how he got it open enough to get out . . . with a parachute on no less. Maybe the need to get the insurance check gave him super human strength. :shrug:



Good point Greg, I have only jumped out of a plane without an inflight skydiving door a few times and it is HARD! The pilot had to slow way down and drop some flaps and it was still tough. I haven't heard if he is a skydiver or not but his story sounds fishy.


I also wonder why he had a helmet camera on that he filmed his jump with ?

pretty fishy.

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He obviously put the gear up, did he forget where the devise was that subsequently would put the gear back down? :eek:
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There's a guy with a Columbia in Key West that wears one everytime he goes up, maybe It's more comin then we think,,,,,, NAAAAA! Insurance money :clap:

Here's another thought: Maybe the guy's not even a pilot, just an experienced skydiver who decided to "borrow" an airplane for a joy ride and then decided he wasn't up to making a safe landing. His conversations with ATC ("Say intentions: 'I don't want to hurt anybody'), his inability to lower the gear (what are the chances that a flight control problem and a gear problem would occur on the same flight?) are some of the things that make me wonder is this was a qualified pilot.


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Jeez. Who knew all this? I guess I'm in the market for a couple parachutes. :shrug:


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How in heck would you even exit a Bonanza with a chute without coming into contact with the tail?


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How in heck would you even exit a Bonanza with a chute without coming into contact with the tail?


Cherokee6 was used for skydiving in the past and people have climbed out over the wing of other low-wings. If the plane is at a rasonable speed for the jump-run, there is little risk of hitting the stab. It CAN be done but it requires effort.


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Where did you see he had a Helmet Cam? am I missing something? :scratch:

I also wonder why he had a helmet camera on that he filmed his jump with ?

pretty fishy.

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How in heck would you even exit a Bonanza with a chute without coming into contact with the tail?


I've looked behind me at the tail and have been surprised at how high the V rides relative to the wing compared with the tail-low attitude on the ground. I think if you just slid off the wing while sitting/lying it would not be a problem.

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How in heck would you even exit a Bonanza with a chute without coming into contact with the tail?


I've looked behind me at the tail and have been surprised at how high the V rides relative to the wing compared with the tail-low attitude on the ground. I think if you just slid off the wing while sitting/lying it would not be a problem.

From what I've read (never bailed out myself although I've flown quite a bit with a chute in some airplanes), you always want to be heading down immediately when you leave the airplane and then gravity will help you miss the tail. In the biplane I had the plan was to unbuckle the belts, roll inverted, and push or lacking sufficient control, diving off the side.

You'd have more clearance going under a V tail, I guess that's just one more advantage of a "true" Bonanza. :D
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Where did you see he had a Helmet Cam? am I missing something? :scratch:

I also wonder why he had a helmet camera on that he filmed his jump with ?

pretty fishy.

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